15 Jul 11
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by FMFIsn't that racism? Should do well in the campaign.
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by FMFYou are stating a lie about Herman Cain. He he has NOT promised to
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?
completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
He said he would not be comfortable with a muslim in his administration,
unless he could exclude those that were trying to kill us. And that he
would need to ask certain questions to make sure they were committed
to the Constitution of the United States of America.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-says-hes-only-afraid-of-violent-muslims.php
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsI am not talking about him promising to filter out Americans who are trying to kill Americans. No one is expecting him or asking him to appoint convicted terrorists. He said he would not want to appoint judges or cabinet members who were Muslims, and suggested he wouldn't be comfortable appointing any Muslims at all in his entire administration.
You are stating a lie about Herman Cain. He he has NOT promised to
completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
He said he would not be comfortable with a muslim in his administration,
unless he could exclude those that were trying to kill us. And that he
would need to ask certain questions to make sure they were committed ...[text shortened]... tp://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-says-hes-only-afraid-of-violent-muslims.php
But even if you are right, is it an acceptable or appropriate promise for a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S. to be making?
All holders of public office have to be committed to the Constitution of the United States of America, surely. So why should this be any more or less so for American Muslims.
And seeing as you brought up commitment to the Constitution of the United States of America, wouldn't you say that Cain's desire to exclude Muslims from his administration would contravene Article VI of the US Constitution which says that no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States?
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by FMFi think it is ok to promise that. but any american muslims getting fired in the off chance the moron would get elected would need only to present a videotape of his speech in court and get a bazillion dollars.
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsyes, much better. an american needing to prove he is innocent based on his ethnicity.
You are stating a lie about Herman Cain. He he has NOT promised to
completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.
He said he would not be comfortable with a muslim in his administration,
unless he could exclude those that were trying to kill us. And that he
would need to ask certain questions to make sure they were committed ...[text shortened]... tp://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-says-hes-only-afraid-of-violent-muslims.php
15 Jul 11
CAIN: So. You want the judge job?
MUSLIM AMERICAN: Yes, Mr President.
CAIN: Do you want to kill Americans because of who we are?
MUSLIM AMERICAN: Actually, yes.
CAIN: Well then. I thought as much. No way am I giving you the job.
MUSLIM AMERICAN: I was going to base all my decisions on Sharia Law.
CAIN: I bet you were.
MUSLIM AMERICAN: Foiled.
CAIN: I was right all along.
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by ZahlanziNo chance of him getting fired, if he is not hired in the first place.
i think it is ok to promise that. but any american muslims getting fired in the off chance the moron would get elected would need only to present a videotape of his speech in court and get a bazillion dollars.
Anyway, a President is allowed to have anyone he wants in his
administration. He is allowed to exclude anyone for any reason.
So I don't see any problem with it. Just because a person is a Jew,
a muslim, or a Christian does not entitle him to a job working for
the President of the USA anymore than if he were disabled. All
other Presidents have excluded whoever they wanted to. It is only
his politican enemies that are making a big deal over it. I would
rather he play safe than we have to be sorry later.
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by FMFYou need to keep your nose out of our political business.
I am not talking about him promising to filter out Americans who are trying to kill Americans. No one is expecting him or asking him to appoint convicted terrorists. He said he would not want to appoint judges or cabinet members who were Muslims, and suggested he wouldn't be comfortable appointing any Muslims at all in his entire administration.
But even if ...[text shortened]... ll ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States?
Then maybe you can discuss something you really know
something about. You do not know enough about our
constitution to make such statements. You have to
understand it in context with the beliefs of our founding
fathers, which you know nothing about.
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsThis isn't the issue. You have it back to front. The issue is that the President of the U.S. cannot exclude a person just because he or she is a Jew, a Muslim, or a Christian. Perhaps you are unaware of what your own Constitution says and means?
Just because a person is a Jew, a muslim, or a Christian does not entitle him to a job working for the President of the USA anymore than if he were disabled.
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsYou have repeatedly shown yourself to be a complete ignoramus and to tell someone they do not know enough about a subject to debate it is hilarious.
You need to keep your nose out of our political business.
Then maybe you can discuss something you really know
something about. You do not know enough about our
constitution to make such statements. You have to
understand it in context with the beliefs of our founding
fathers, which you know nothing about.
I'd put good money on FMF knowing more about your constitution than you.
In fact I'd give evens on anyone knowing more about your constitution than you.
In fact I'd give odds on that any random person has more sense than you.
In fact ... (you get my drift?)
No? you dont get my drift! ... because you are STUPID beyond belief.
15 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsi would be curious as to what law or constitution allows the president to discriminate based on religion. sure he is allowed to bring his own team in the white house on the off chance he might actually get elected. but i doubt he can appoint judges as he wants. or fire the pentagon's muslim janitors.
No chance of him getting fired, if he is not hired in the first place.
Anyway, a President is allowed to have anyone he wants in his
administration. He is allowed to exclude anyone for any reason.
So I don't see any problem with it. Just because a person is a Jew,
a muslim, or a Christian does not entitle him to a job working for
the President of the ...[text shortened]... at are making a big deal over it. I would
rather he play safe than we have to be sorry later.