Herman Cain, Christianity, Leadership

Originally posted by RJHinds
Article 6 concerns the United States itself.

Here's the bit:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned,
and the Members of the several State Legislatures,
and all executive and judicial Officers, both
of the United States and of the several States, shall
be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this
Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States.

Your support for Cain is such that you believe he is exempt from Article VI?

Originally posted by FMF
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.

In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?

Obviously he's a tosser. I just hope he doesn't do his tossing near his pizzas.

Originally posted by FMF
Here's the bit:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned,
and the Members of the several State Legislatures,
and all executive and judicial Officers, both
of the United States and of the several States, shall
be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this
Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any ...[text shortened]... ed States.

Your support for Cain is such that you believe he is exempt from Article VI?

It is such that RJ fails to acknowledge what Article 6 states "finally."

RJ: "Finally, it requires all officers of the United States and of the states to swear an oath of allegiance to the United States and the Constitution when taking office."

Whereas finally, it states, "...but no religious Test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Originally posted by FMF
Presidential hopeful Herman Cain has promised to completely exclude American Muslims from his administration, if elected.

In terms of both faith and citizenship, is this an acceptable or appropriate promise by a Christian aspiring to be the leader of a secular country such as the U.S.?

A. he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected

2. we have laws about discrimination etc... to which the potus also answers to.

Originally posted by FMF
Here's the bit:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned,
and the Members of the several State Legislatures,
and all executive and judicial Officers, both
of the United States and of the several States, shall
be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this
Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any ...[text shortened]... ed States.

Your support for Cain is such that you believe he is exempt from Article VI?

I support his right to exclude anyone he wants from his administration,
just like every other President of the United States has done before him.
Isn't that plain enough for you?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I support his right to exclude anyone he wants from his administration,
just like every other President of the United States has done before him.
Isn't that plain enough for you?

So you believe Cain is exempt from Article VI of the U.S. Constitution? OK. It's plain enough for me. We can thus proceed.

Does this belief have anything to do with your own faith or the faith of Americans whose faith is different from yours?

Does your disregard for the U.S. Constitution have anything to do your faith or spirituality?

[I started this discussion here and not at Debates because I wanted to get at these questions]

Originally posted by FMF
So you believe Cain is exempt from Article VI of the U.S. Constitution? OK. It's plain enough for me. We can thus proceed.

Does this belief have anything to do with your own faith or the faith of Americans whose faith is different from yours?

Does your disregard for the U.S. Constitution have anything to do your faith or spirituality?

[I started this discussion here and not at Debates because I wanted to get at these questions]

Both Cain and I have a high regard for our U.S Constitution, which was
formed on Christian principles, something foreigners like you can not
understand.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Both Cain and I have a high regard for our U.S Constitution, which was
formed on Christian principles...

Yes but that doesn't answer my questions.

Are you saying it is Cain's and your Christian principles that allow you to argue in favour of exemptions from Article VI of the U.S. Constitution?

Originally posted by FMF
Yes but that doesn't answer my questions.

Are you saying it is Cain's and your Christian principles that allow you to argue in favour of exemptions from Article VI of the U.S. Constitution?

Cain is not arguing for and exemption from the U.S. Constitution. He,
in fact, wants to make sure everyone in his admistration is commited to it,
rather than to sharia law.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Cain is not arguing for and exemption from the U.S. Constitution. He,
in fact, wants to make sure everyone in his administration is committed to it,
rather than to sharia law.

Well what Cain said, and what Article VI says, are quite clear and have been posted on this thread. A President cannot claim to be upholding something he is contravening. This has been established here I think. I would like you to answer the questions I have posed.

Does this belief that Cain is justified, in promising what he has promised, have anything to do with your own faith or the faith of Americans whose faith is different from yours?

Originally posted by RJHinds
He, in fact, wants to make sure everyone in his admistration is commited to it,
rather than to sharia law.

How would Sharia Law ever pass Congress?

I'm a foreigner: is there something about America's likelihood of replacing its Constitution that I am unaware of?

Originally posted by FMF
How would Sharia Law ever pass Congress?

I'm a foreigner: is there something about America's likelihood of replacing its Constitution that I am unaware of?

Not if I can help it. However, we have an increasingly number of
liberal educated idiots here that have learned how to vote.
They are not being taught the respect for the constitution and the
writers meaning at the time it was written. They will easily vote
for something they see as the liberal thing to do. They might even
see sharia law as something to pass to keep the growing muslim
population happy so they can get elected to office. I don't see
it happening anytime soon, but it could if we don't oppose it.

Originally posted by RJHinds
[liberal educated idiots ] might even see sharia law as something to pass to keep the growing muslim population happy so they can get elected to office.

Muslims make up about 0.6% of the population of the U.S. What majority in the Congress and Senate would be needed to repeal the Constitution?

You think a "liberal educated" president might try to introduce Sharia Law in an effort to secure the American Muslim vote and so get a second term?

Originally posted by FMF
Muslims make up about 0.6% of the population of the U.S. What majority in the Congress and Senate would be needed to repeal the Constitution?

You think a "liberal educated" president might try to introduce Sharia Law in an effort to secure the American Muslim vote and so get a second term?

I believe a simple majority could do it.
You can't ever tell what these liberals will do.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Not if I can help it. However, we have an increasingly number of
liberal educated idiots here that have learned how to vote.
They are not being taught the respect for the constitution and the
writers meaning at the time it was written. They will easily vote
for something they see as the liberal thing to do. They might even
see sharia law as somethin ...[text shortened]... lected to office. I don't see
it happening anytime soon, but it could if we don't oppose it.

I thought liberals were all a bunch of athiests, why would they vote in a theocracy?