Originally posted by 667joe
The solstice applies to everybody. A minority of the world is Christian. If you are a Christian, please enjoy your holiday, but have the decency to realize some people you wish a merry Xmas to may take umbrage just as you seem to have taken umbrage with me. Remember, though, Xmas can be avoided, but you will experience the solstice no matter what, so you ...[text shortened]... ter, so you see, you are really celebrating the solstice. Christians plagiarized the holiday!
Yeah I get all the historical significance of the solstice and the christian takeover of the holiday. It just strikes me as a bit over the top.
I'm not sure what umbrage is taken by someone wishing me a merry christmas. I wouldn't take umbrage over a muslim wishing me a happy ramadan or a jew suggesting I should enjoy hannukah (not sure of the spelling on that one). It's a simple matter to point out that these celebrations do not apply to me since I don't follow that faith.
Now, as it turns out I don't follow christianity either, but I live in a society where christianity is the faith of the majority, and the history of my society has tended to celebrate some of the ritual dates of this majority. I'm not fussed by that. Yes I'm an atheist. Yes, I don't believe in the divinity of jesus or anyone else. Yes, I don't believe in a god.
But so what. It's just a freakin' holiday.
And on this issue of celebrating the solstice. It may have been relevant during ancient times when so much of the life of people was focused around the seasons and other cycles in the natural world.
It's not relevant now.
You may as well celebrate the day before the solstice, or the day after December 7, for any actual significance those dates have. (Which is none.)
Christmas has some cultural and historical significance ... and I get a day off.