Originally posted by Wheely It would be arrogant of us to project our own sense of justice onto any particular god. Therefore, just because we think something is horribly unjust doesn't mean that it actually is. I would have thought that god could have a purpose much greater than we could imagine that required this poor girl to go through what she did.
The same could be said of 9/11.
Why don't we just drop this whole god / allah / life-after-death idea and work at living in peace now.
A god could be absolutely certain if there was life after death.
I believe that no human could be that certain.
A god could not know what it is like to be human faced with death.
A god also could not know what it is like to be the loved one of a human faced with death.
Yet a god supposedly created us. What type of devil must be that god ?
The only way he could know would be to become human and live a human life , this is why it is important to underline Jesus's humanity. Infact one could argue that he was more human than most of us because he was open to the suffering of others and not cold or shut off. He was vibrating with life and humanity. Kids ran to him and played at his feet , sounds pretty human to me.
I don't know if you will find this relevant but a human being could not know what it is like to take the sins of the world on his shoulders.
Originally posted by knightmeister The only way he could know would be to become human and live a human life , this is why it is important to underline Jesus's humanity. Infact one could argue that he was more human than most of us because he was open to the suffering of others and not cold or shut off. He was vibrating with life and humanity. Kids ran to him and played at his feet , so ...[text shortened]... t a human being could not know what it is like to take the sins of the world on his shoulders.
But he would have been absolutely certain about having life after his death.
He could not know what it is like to not be that certain.
Originally posted by knightmeister I'm new to STANG what's the deal with this guy?
I began openly questioning Christianity because ...
I believe that Christianity is being used as a front by Bush, manipulating Christian fanatics to achieve his personal financial interests in oil and manufacturers of weaponary.
Bush is so similar to Bin Laden in that regard ...
... except that Bush is a threat to people and the environment on a much larger scale. My own country men and women have died as a result of his actions and he has so little regard for global warming.
Originally posted by knightmeister I'm new to STANG what's the deal with this guy?
I'm not excluding the possibility of him having changed, but any "discussion" (in my experience) soon degenerated into a SPAM... uh... STANG contest of rhetoric, rather than a conscientious attempt to address the other's points.
Originally posted by 7ate9 something else of importance about bush and christians is how christians will look at another christian as their leader instead of Jesus. apart from the antartican armed forces, bush and his armies are the most powerful people in the world. i don't want other people around earth to behave with that killing attitude he has. they are weak cause they can't even stand on their own two feet.
I agree .. except that Bush can stand on his own two feet .. and run the otherway.
Originally posted by STANG But he would have been absolutely certain about having life after his death.
He could not know what it is like to not be that certain.
But he would have been absolutely certain about having life after his death. As His humanity was informed by the same sourse available to us, i.e., the word of God, we have that same certainty.
He could not know what it is like to not be that certain. Ah, come on out and say it: God cheated. While it may be a difficult concept to get your mind around (not being insulting here), when God became a man--- even while He was sustaining the universe at the same time--- He took on the limits of the raiment, as well. He thirsted, He hungered; He started off in as much ignorance as the rest of us, only learning Who He was via the word of God, as was available to Him at that time.
His study of the word of God led Him to the knowledge of His identity by the time He had reached age twelve. Most of us take our whole lives and still don't know who we are.
How can there be a god ?
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