How do we know?

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Let me know if I can be of more help with your dodging of my (so simple a child could understand it) question.


Thanks, I might do that sometime. Right now, this simple-minded guy is looking forward to a productive workday. 🙂

@KellyJay said
Believe it or not, something can be true and completely unscientific. It's reality, not what conforms to your idea of what is and isn't scientific that matters.

Reality can always be scientifically verified. If something 'you' believe (for example, that the Earth is only a few thousand years old) is shown to be unscientific, then it is categorically 'not' true.

Believing that something can be simultaneously true and unscientific is probably where you are going wrong.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Reality can always be scientifically verified. If something 'you' believe (for example, that the Earth is only a few thousand years old) is shown to be unscientific, then it is categorically 'not' true.

Believing that something can be simultaneously true and unscientific is probably where you are going wrong.

Your statement about everything can be confirmed by science, is that a statement about science or a scientific statement?

You cannot give a hard factual age to the Earth that would not be subject to change if suddenly something new became the accepted age. The thing you are doing is confusing categories, we know truth will not contradict itself, but science can have conflicting points of view accepted by different groups of people.

You are simply making assumptions you have about the distance past dogmatic, and are attempting to reject disagreement claiming anyone who doesn’t agree with you is anti science, so you don’t have to defend your views, because by your definition you have rejected contrary views as anti science without addressing them.

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I'm sorry you feel this way, but unlike a few others here (who will go unnamed) I don't spend large amounts of time and effort in the forums section. Work, exercise, and chess are my priorities (yes...in that order) Dreaming up discussions about scripture, abstract hypotheticals, philosophical trivia and other less than productive activities are not things I care to spend much time on. So please pardon me if I don't go too deeply into your topics. We all have our priorities. Productivity and getting to 1800 are mine.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Reality can always be scientifically verified. If something 'you' believe (for example, that the Earth is only a few thousand years old) is shown to be unscientific, then it is categorically 'not' true.

Believing that something can be simultaneously true and unscientific is probably where you are going wrong.

Let me ask you a question about reality and the universe's age. Why is the sky dark at night? If the sky is eternal and light is coming at us from every direction why is there not light instead of darkness? It isn't like we would need to wait on all of the star's light in the universe to get here, it would have had an eternity to travel from anywhere to here.

Unscientific is a term I don't believe you grasp in my opinion, if something cannot be known by science, that doesn't mean it cannot be true, it only means utilizing science it cannot be explained.