02 Apr '07 18:10>
Originally posted by FreakyKBHAnd yet, here we find ourselves, outside of Eden... at least, for the time being.
[b]I have to dispute that there is any place/dimension/state-of-being which is, or could be, absent God’s presence...
And yet, here we find ourselves, outside of Eden... at least, for the time being.
what honest person really has a clear comprehension of the word “eternity”?
I'd hazard a guess that only those who have experienced it ...[text shortened]... understanding, whether or not hell turns out to be metaphorical I do know I won't be there![/b]
Well, that whole thing is rich with possible meanings. I have tended to read it allegorically and psychologically. Protestant theologian Paul Tillich read it existentially. I think Augustine and others may have read it ontologically. It could be read relationally...
My point is about the omnipresence of God, however one understands that (and I admit that I am peering through my non-dualist spectacles; but a panentheistic view, which seems to be more where the Eastern Orthodox folks are at) would come to the same conclusion. I am reminded of the Zen story in which the child-fish asks his mother: “So when are you going to show me this ‘ocean’ you’re always talking about.”
Interesting take on it. I have thought of God as the man in the ditch, and us as either one of the three or one of the robbers. I'll mull over your view and get back to you.
I always thought of it in the plain sense, wherein we are to behave like the Samaritan even with regard to people we don’t like—and Jesus turned the tables on the one who asked, “Who is my neighbor?” by presenting the parable and then asking, “Who was a neighbor to the man in the ditch?”
I don’t know how I thought of the other “take,” but I first suggested it to lucifershammer, who then said that a theologian friend of his told him that that may have been the earliest understanding of the parable in the church. Like all parables, I think it operates on more than one level.