@whodey saidGreat post. Yes the apostates are the perfect example. And is it is up to Jehovah and his son Jesus to decide. Humans can guess or pass judgement but only Jehovah and his son Jesus decide as they are the reader of hearts.
Apostates have knowledge, but no application of that knowledge. They can be found in the presence of the light of Christ, mostly in the church, among God’s people. Judas Iscariot is the perfect example—he had knowledge but he lacked true faith. No other rejector of the truth had more or better exposure to the love and grace of God than Judas. He was part of Jesus’ inner circle ...[text shortened]... orld has ever known, and yet he not only turned away but was instrumental in the plot to kill Jesus.
But if one has learned the truths in the bible it is very important that one follows them because one's life could hang in the balance when that time comes that they read your heart.
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@galveston75 saidNonsense. There are no truths that anyone need to know. Jesus described in crystal clear language the type of person who would be cast out of the kingdom of God. It has nothing to do with what you are carrying on about.
Great post. Yes the apostates are the perfect example. And is it is up to Jehovah and his son Jesus to decide. Humans can guess or pass judgement but only Jehovah and his son Jesus decide as they are the reader of hearts.
But if one has learned the truths in the bible it is very important that one follows them because one's life could hang in the balance when that time comes that they read your heart.
@fmf saidMy point isn't what Christian good works are. It's what his Christian good works are. He's shouted to the rooftops in here for far too long without providing one shred of evidence that he himself adheres to his professed 'doctrine'.
I know what good works are and I am not even a Christian. I don't need to pry into your private life in order to find out what Christian good works are.
"Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind here. If you weren't so eager to get his support in your attacks on Christians here perhaps you'd show the same unbelief towards his talk without actions that you have shown in the past for their talk with actions.
Your own doctrine seems to be, when entering a room carrying rocks, it seems prudent not to anger the other guy in the room who is also carrying rocks.
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@suzianne saidSince when people on an internet chat site who are discussing the teachings of Christ need to post their personal details.
My point isn't what Christian good works are. It's what his Christian good works are. He's shouted to the rooftops in here for far too long without providing one shred of evidence that he himself adheres to his professed 'doctrine'.
"Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind here. If you weren't so eager to get his support in your attacks on Christians here ...[text shortened]... carrying rocks, it seems prudent not to anger the other guy in the room who is also carrying rocks.
What Jesus said does not change. Maybe my posts are falling in your garden.
I have no interest in your personal life so please spare us the details of what you do.
@suzianne saidIt comes to your mind because you are trying to sidestep the discussion of theology. He doesn't need you to discuss what you do - and so he doesn't ask you about. He doesn't need to discuss what he does because the issue for him is theology.
"Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind here.
@suzianne saidMy own doctrine is to aim for the heart of the matter and make the observations and ask the questions that take you there as directly as possible.
Your own doctrine seems to be, when entering a room carrying rocks, it seems prudent not to anger the other guy in the room who is also carrying rocks.
