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If Christians believe in Prayer and salvation. And they also believe in the Satanic forces. Why don't Christians Pray for the Salvation of Satan. Aren't all things possible through Christ?
Originally posted by cashthetrashYou seem to be talking about the aspirations of some Universalists who do believe that even Satan will be reconciled to God. I am not a Universalist and don't believe some of thier theology is biblical.
If Christians believe in Prayer and salvation. And they also believe in the Satanic forces. Why don't Christians Pray for the Salvation of Satan. Aren't all things possible through Christ?
Originally posted by scekkBoth of the answers given in this thread seems to be good answers. I usually lean toward simplicity. I had the question asked of me once, and was stumped. I'm not sure how it would do any harm, but you are right about being condemned. Still one thing that baffles me in that theological answer, is that if God can change his mind and I believe that it would be imperfect not to be able to do so, Why not in this case? If something is not mentioned in the Bible does that mean posibilities can't exist?
The way I see it: God will forgive sins of those that are not already condemned. Satan was condemned when kicked out of Heaven. All things may be possible, as long as they fit within the parameters that God has set.
Originally posted by cashthetrashThere is no salvation for Satan and the demons, and if you are going
If Christians believe in Prayer and salvation. And they also believe in the Satanic forces. Why don't Christians Pray for the Salvation of Satan. Aren't all things possible through Christ?
Originally posted by jaywillThe thing is, that everyone seems to forget is that these scriptures have all been written by man. Man makes mistakes. So when you quote man, you are not necessarily quoting God.
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Why not in this case? If something is not mentioned in the Bible does that mean posibilities can't exist?
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I would think that the answer in many instances is no. What is revealed to us is regulated.
I like the verse that says:
"The things that are hidden belong to ...[text shortened]... r [Lucifer in Latin] who ages ago became Satan, the enemy of God and man.[/b]
Originally posted by KellyJayFirst of all I wasn't quoting scripture, I was expressing a thought and asking a question. But now that you mention it, why stop there, why not quote the bible instead. I find that a person can take a scripture and miss apply it to just about any argument. I also find you can take the letters in words and rearrange them to to say something totally different also. I find very little in your suggestion that is helpful. But I thank you anyway.
There is no salvation for Satan and the demons, and if you are going
to quote scripture I suggest you quote the full verse.
Kelly
Originally posted by cashthetrashToday under the excuse the men make mistakes people are turning away from the healthy teaching the Lord Jesus Christ's words. The perculiar thing is that they gravitate then towards "teachers" who will tell them what they want to hear.
The thing is, that everyone seems to forget is that these scriptures have all been written by man. Man makes mistakes. So when you quote man, you are not necessarily quoting God.
Originally posted by jaywillWhen I educate kids, I try to satisfy their curiosity. You don't?
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Why not in this case? If something is not mentioned in the Bible does that mean posibilities can't exist?
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I would think that the answer in many instances is no. What is revealed to us is regulated.
I like the verse that says:
"The things that are hidden belong to ...[text shortened]... r [Lucifer in Latin] who ages ago became Satan, the enemy of God and man.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYes. But one time I went on and on about how the third rail of a subway was electric and could kill a person. The poor little ones got scared of trains after that. I realized what was a pleasant ride on the subway became a terror to them because I was over zealous to give them premature knowledge about which they did not have to worry.
When I educate kids, I try to satisfy their curiosity. You don't?
Originally posted by jaywillI'm sorry, but that is one of the must ridiculous things I ever read.
Yes. But one time I went on and on about how the third rail of a subway was electric and could kill a person. The poor little ones got scared of trains after that. I realized what was a pleasant ride on the subway became a terror to them because I was over zealous to give them [b]premature knowledge about which they did not have to worry.
So you too ...[text shortened]... out of touch with the knowledge that God HAS shown us, but rather lust for more in disobedience.[/b]
Originally posted by cashthetrashFirst of all, God knows the outcome regarding salvation for all aspects of his creation. He knows what will happen with you and with me as well as with Lucifer. However, this does not mean that he controls either of us in this outcome. It will all come about via our own free will.
If Christians believe in Prayer and salvation. And they also believe in the Satanic forces. Why don't Christians Pray for the Salvation of Satan. Aren't all things possible through Christ?