"I know there is no God"

@fmf said
The Romans killed Jesus as a perceived political threat. Do the Gospels state that he was "murdered"?

Do the Gospels state that he was "murdered"?
"What's the difference between being killed and murdered?
Answer: If you murder somebody, your intention would be solely to kill them. If your intent wasn't to kill them but you do, then it is not considered murder. Murder is a killing where the intent is proved."

@fmf said
Not contemporaneous "records", no. It's not. Even the New Testament was written decades after the events supposedly happened and the writer of most of it never even met its main protagonist.

Not contemporaneous "records", no. It's not.
Yes it is. Flavius Josephus is one of the Roman Jewish historian's at that time. Go do some studying on him. He wrote all about Jesus and the happening's in Jewish culture at that time; even tho he didn't believe in Jesus. 🙂
and the writer of most of it never even met its main protagonist.
Completely wrong again. Many of the scribes knew the main protagonist; especially John.

@fmf said
I am not talking about how his execution is "described". And I know how you and other Christians characterize what happened to Jesus but if he was "murdered" then, of course, the gospels would state that he was "murdered".

And I know
How do you know? Do you have proof? 🙂
The Gospels do state that Jesus was murdered; ALL of them.

@fmf said
"I know there is no God".

Actually, I do not "know" it. And I never make this claim.

We can certainly say we believe supernatural beings exist or don't exist.

Or... that we do not or cannot know either way.

We can also certainly say we believe that a specific God figure from a specific religious tradition exists or that we don't believe that a specific God figure, ...[text shortened]... belief.

This is a dilution of the meaning of the word "know" that does not benefit the discourse.

Azrajeio bariku! Halam zalaam.

-Removed-

What do you want, little boy? A cookie with frosting? Some melba toast with butter?

@kingdavid403 said
Do the Gospels state that he was "murdered"?
"What's the difference between being killed and murdered?
Answer: If you murder somebody, your intention would be solely to kill them. If your intent wasn't to kill them but you do, then it is not considered murder. Murder is a killing where the intent is proved."

The Romans executed him for sedition, i.e. they perceived him as a political threat - as even indicated by your own words - so the reason he ended up dead was because of an execution and not a murder.

@kingdavid403 said
The Gospels do state that Jesus was murdered; ALL of them.

Where?

@fmf said
The Romans executed him for sedition, i.e. they perceived him as a political threat - as even indicated by your own words - so the reason he ended up dead was because of an execution and not a murder.

Sorry you're wrong as I already showed you. Grow up little boy.

@fmf said
Where?

In the Bible. In every Gospel as I told you several times before little boy. Grow the fck up.

@kingdavid403 said
Not contemporaneous "records", no. It's not.
Yes it is. Flavius Josephus is one of the Roman Jewish historian's at that time. Go do some studying on him. He wrote all about Jesus and the happening's in Jewish culture at that time; even tho he didn't believe in Jesus.

Josephus did not produce "contemporaneous records". He was writing two or three generations after Jesus's death. You apparently to reassess your understanding of what the word "contemporaneous" means.

@kingdavid403 said
In the Bible. In every Gospel as I told you several times before little boy. Grow the fck up.

The Bible describes an execution. It does not use the word "murder", which it surely would have done if that was what happened.

@fmf said
Josephus did not produce "contemporaneous records". He was writing two or three generations after Jesus's death. You apparently to reassess your understanding of what the word "contemporaneous" means.

lol, Yes he did. Grow up little atheist boy. You really showing what an actual loser you are.

@kingdavid403 said
and the writer of most of it never even met its main protagonist.
Completely wrong again. Many of the scribes knew the main protagonist; especially John.

The main writer was Paul. He never even met Jesus.

@fmf said
The Bible describes an execution. It does not use the word "murder", which it surely would have done if that was what happened.

The Bible describes a murder of an Innocent man. Look up the definition of murder dumb ass.