Originally posted by lucifershammerHow many times has Ivanhoe posted some ultra-trivial commentary from some obscure Roman
Trust the NY Times to make a mountain of a molehill.
Catholic newspaper regarding some third world country's priest favorite color? Those meaningless
posts have not been met with the same cynical response you gave this article, one which has a
great deal of relevance in the continent with an inordinate number of Roman Catholics: Africa.
This NYTimes article is balanced, making clear that the Pope has not made any decision except
to review its stance on the issue.
It is hardly a molehill. Let's pray it becomes a mountain.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioWhat percentage of new HIV infections are caused by consentual sex between two married people one of whom is known to be infected already?
How many times has Ivanhoe posted some ultra-trivial commentary from some obscure Roman
Catholic newspaper regarding some third world country's priest favorite color? Those meaningless
posts have not been met with the same cynical response you gave this article, one which has a
great deal of relevance in the continent with an inordinate number of Roman ...[text shortened]... ance on the issue.
It is hardly a molehill. Let's pray it becomes a mountain.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioThe fear for Ivanhoe, LH and other blind believers is that it erodes the solid foundation of unquestioning certainty provided by their religion.
How many times has Ivanhoe posted some ultra-trivial commentary from some obscure Roman
Catholic newspaper regarding some third world country's priest favorite color? Those meaningless
posts have not been met with the same cynical response you gave this article, one which has a
great deal of relevance in the continent with an inordinate number of Roman ...[text shortened]... ance on the issue.
It is hardly a molehill. Let's pray it becomes a mountain.
Nemesio
The RC has always taught that contraceptives are inherently wrong as if it is a directive from an omniscient creator, and therefore immutable.
Now they are changing this previously concrete law, thereby admitting fallibility and incompleteness of doctrine.
They were wrong for years about this 'certainty'; which other 'certainties' will be altered in the future? The seeds of doubt have been sown. Where will it all end?
Eventually, the whole rulebook may have to be discarded, and the bible thrown out as mumbo jumbo.
Originally posted by howardgeeOh grow up already. NOW who is making a mountain out of a molehill?
The fear for Ivanhoe, LH and other blind believers is that it erodes the solid foundation of unquestioning certainty provided by their religion.
The RC has always taught that contraceptives are inherently wrong as if it is a directive from an omniscient creator, and therefore immutable.
Now they are changing this previously concrete law, thereby admi ...[text shortened]... ually, the whole rulebook may have to be discarded, and the bible thrown out as mumbo jumbo.
Originally posted by lucifershammer"In Africa, couples are at the highest risk for HIV infection and researchers estimate that between 60-70% of HIV transmission occurs within couples that are married or living together." (http://www.iavireport.org/vax/primers/vaxprimer19.asp)
Numbers, please.
The C in the much vaunted Ugandan ABC approach stands for Condom.
Originally posted by lucifershammerYou get more like Ivanhoe every day. When faced with a situation
Numbers, please.
which is inconvenient for the absurd stances your faith entails (be it
the Inquisition, literal belief/figurative belief, condom use, or sex
scandals), you become immediately deaf and dumb.
If you don't read the newspaper about HIV in Africa (you know, dirty
rags like the NYTimes), then I'm not going to hold your hand and find
the information for you. It's been published at least a dozen times in
the past 3 years about the Church's adamant stance against condom
use in the face of HIV infections in Africa. If your head is that far
buried in the sand, then my citation isn't going to help you.
Nemesio
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI can't help myself.
"In Africa, couples are at the highest risk for HIV infection and researchers estimate that between 60-70% of HIV transmission occurs within couples that are married or living together." (http://www.iavireport.org/vax/primers/vaxprimer19.asp)
The C in the much vaunted Ugandan ABC approach stands for Condom.
Here are some better articles.
http://www.iavireport.org/Issues/0804/SerodiscordantCouples.asp
http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t040407.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/11/30/DI2005113001653.html
Especially read this report:
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/submitted/vallaeys/gender.html
Enjoy the edification, LH.
Nemesio
Originally posted by ChurlantThe Roman Catholic Church does not reject evolution. In fact, it
I wonder if anyone within the Church has yet grasped the irony involved in such decisions.
A body of individuals whose doctrine continually rejects the concept of evolution while that doctrine itself proceeds to evolve from one year to the next.
-JC
embraces it.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioThanks for this. I didn't know it was that high.
I can't help myself.
Here are some better articles.
http://www.iavireport.org/Issues/0804/SerodiscordantCouples.asp
http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t040407.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/11/30/DI2005113001653.html
Especially read this report:
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/submitted/vallaeys/gender.html
Enjoy the edification, LH.
Nemesio