If I were a Christian...

Originally posted by dottewell
They have free will to choose to accept god, if they see fit; you have free will to choose to dedicate your life to giving them all the information to make the right choice, if you see fit.

It's like elections; ultimately people will vote as they see fit. Surely that doesn't mean you shouldn't campaign?

ahhhh, election...

if the god we are talking about is the god of the bible, then according to the book of ephesians, it is god who elects. according to the gospel of john, it is god who chooses.

Originally posted by Big Mac
ahhhh, election...

if the god we are talking about is the god of the bible, then according to the book of ephesians, it is god who elects. according to the gospel of john, it is god who chooses.

So what's the value of free will?

Originally posted by dottewell
I'd spend all my time and money witnessing.

I mean think about it, people. Immortal souls are at stake here.

You simply don't have time for golf, or nice cars, or posting in a word association thread on a chess website. Or anything else.

Wives and children are, like Playstations, a terrible distraction. Saving two souls is better than creating one ...[text shortened]... what if the ungrateful little SOB turns against the church? Then your score goes down by one!

Tithing money also goes to that. Tithing money sends missionaries to other countries.

Originally posted by RBHILL
Tithing money also goes to that. Tithing money sends missionaries to other countries.

But if that's a good thing, why isn't it a sin to spend money on things like alcohol and pictures of dogs playing pool?

Originally posted by dottewell
So what's the value of free will?

i don't know. i don't hold to the doctrine. i see no evidence for it in the bible.

Originally posted by Big Mac
i don't know. i don't hold to the doctrine. i see no evidence for it in the bible.

Fair enough. Enjoy your golf.

Originally posted by dottewell
What's more important to you than saving a soul?

Is it the golf?

So golfers don't need witnessed to?

Originally posted by dottewell
Fair enough. Enjoy your golf.

well thanks, but to be quite honest, i really suck at golf.

If I were a Christian...

but then again no—

Originally posted by whodey
So golfers don't need witnessed to?

My church as an annual golf tournament. But the point of it is that we have to bring an unchurched friend to it to play. And after we eat lunch and hear a testimony of what Christ has done for that person. Which I have not done yet. everyother year I go to the mens retreat then this year I will do the golf tournament.

Originally posted by vistesd
If I were a Christian...

but then again no—

I don't have much money.
But boy if I did
I'd build a big church where
We both could witness*














*Needs work.

Originally posted by dottewell
I don't have much money.
But boy if I did
I'd build a big church where
We both could witness*














*Needs work.

yeah, but you're on it...

I'd be a man sellin' salvation
in a travellin' show

Originally posted by vistesd
yeah, but you're on it...

I'd be a man sellin' salvation
in a travellin' show

i hope you don't mind
i hope you don't mind
that i put down in words...

Originally posted by dottewell
I don't have much money.
But boy if I did
I'd build a big church where
We both could witness*














*Needs work.

This reminds me of people pleading with God for an answer to prayer and swearing their eternal service to him if he answers their prayer. Then if he does answer their prayer they somehow find a way to forget all the promises they made to him in oreder to get their prayers answered.