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I saw this quote and thought it profound.



“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine.


If I would have pulled David out. Out of Saul’s spear-throwing presence. Out of the caves he hid away in. Out of the pain of rejection. I would have cheated Israel out of a God-hearted king.


If I would have pulled Esther out. Out of being snatched from her only family. Out of being placed in a position she never asked for. Out of the path of a vicious, power-hungry foe. I would have cheated a people out of the woman God would use to save their very lives.


If I would have pulled Jesus off. Off of the cross. Off of the road that led to suffering and pain. Off of the path that would mean nakedness and beatings, nails and thorns. I would have cheated the entire world out of a Savior. Out of salvation. Out of an eternity filled with no more suffering and no more pain.


And oh friend. I want to pull you out. I want to change your path. I want to stop your pain. But right now I know I would be wrong. I would be out of line. I would be cheating you and cheating the world out of so much good. Because God knows. He knows the good this pain will produce. He knows the beauty this hardship will grow. He’s watching over you and keeping you even in the midst of this. He’s promising you that you can trust Him. Even when it all feels like more than you can bear.


So instead of trying to pull you out, I’m lifting you up. I’m kneeling before the Father and I’m asking Him to give you strength. To give you hope. I’m asking Him to protect you and to move you when the time is right. I'm asking Him to help you stay prayerful and discerning. I'm asking Him how I can best love you, and be a help to you. I’m believing He’s going to use your life in powerful and beautiful ways. Ways that will leave your heart grateful and humbly thankful for this road you’ve been on.”


Originally posted by Kimberly Henderson, Proverbs 31 Ministries

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@kellyjay said
I saw this quote and thought it profound.



“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine.


If I would have pulled David out. Out of Saul’s spear-throwing presence. Out of the caves he hid away in. Out of the pain of rejection. I would ...[text shortened]... for this road you’ve been on.”


Originally posted by Kimberly Henderson, Proverbs 31 Ministries
Exactly kelly. Good post.

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@kellyjay said
I saw this quote and thought it profound.



“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine.


If I would have pulled David out. Out of Saul’s spear-throwing presence. Out of the caves he hid away in. Out of the pain of rejection. I would ...[text shortened]... for this road you’ve been on.”


Originally posted by Kimberly Henderson, Proverbs 31 Ministries
Rather than sounding profound, it reads to me like a flowery excuse to leave someone in their pit and not bother helping. It’s a long winded version of “thoughts and prayers” to my mind.

From your church’s pulpit today perhaps?

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@divegeester said
Rather than sounding profound, it reads to me like a flowery excuse to leave someone in their pit and not bother helping. It’s a long winded version of “thoughts and prayers” to my mind.

From your church’s pulpit today perhaps?
I fully agree with your post.

Write that down. November 26.

You can even celebrate the event every year on its anniversary.

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'If I would have' is dreadful English anyway.

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@kellyjay said
I saw this quote and thought it profound.



“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine.


If I would have pulled David out. Out of Saul’s spear-throwing presence. Out of the caves he hid away in. Out of the pain of rejection. I would ...[text shortened]... for this road you’ve been on.”


Originally posted by Kimberly Henderson, Proverbs 31 Ministries
If Stauffenberg had succeeded, the world might have been spared quite a lot of misery. I can think of no countervailing reason why it’s better that he didn’t.

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@kellyjay said
I saw this quote and thought it profound.



“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine.


If I would have pulled David out. Out of Saul’s spear-throwing presence. Out of the caves he hid away in. Out of the pain of rejection. I would ...[text shortened]... for this road you’ve been on.”


Originally posted by Kimberly Henderson, Proverbs 31 Ministries
I wonder what the Good Samaritan should have done according to the hypothesizer you quote in your OP?

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@fmf said
I wonder what the Good Samaritan should have done according to the hypothesizer you quote in your OP?
Except that the person the Good Samaritan helped was completely unknown.

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@suzianne said
Except that the person the Good Samaritan helped was completely unknown.
I am hypothesizing that the hypothesizer KellyJay quotes in his OP would have suggested that the Good Samaritan let the stranger pull himself up by his own bootstraps or some such.

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Psalm 18:25-27
English Standard Version

With the merciful you show yourself merciful; with the blameless man you show yourself blameless; with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous. For you save a humble people, but the haughty eyes you bring down.

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@kellyjay said
Psalm 18:25-27
English Standard Version

With the merciful you show yourself merciful; with the blameless man you show yourself blameless; with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous. For you save a humble people, but the haughty eyes you bring down.
"“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine..."

Seems they don't get it kj. Or won't.

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@kellyjay said
With the merciful you show yourself merciful; with the blameless man you show yourself blameless; with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous. For you save a humble people, but the haughty eyes you bring down.
It would be interesting, one day, to hear you talk about how the above injunctions translate into the decisions you make at the ballot box.

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@josephw said
"If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine..."
Have there not been innumerable famines that your God figure clearly did not deliver people from?

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@josephw said
"“If I would have pulled Joseph out. Out of that pit. Out of that prison. Out of that pain. I would have cheated nations out of the one God would use to deliver them from famine..."

Seems they don't get it kj. Or won't.
But surely you can see this is written for an audience of believers.

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@bigdogg said
But surely you can see this is written for an audience of believers.
If you want to understand it, then become a believer.

You do understand it, but you don't believe it.
Consequently, it's application doesn't resonate with your spirit.
Therefore, in your mind, it's not real.

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