Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole"God loves Shavixmir" truer words have never been spoken
Actually, I am back. However, no one seems to be believing in me. Especially given my newfound more critical stance on religion. It all started when, as the Bible correctly reports, God forsook me on the cross. I mean, I really didn't think he would do that, as my words clearly implied at the time.
Anyhow, that's all ancient history now. God, now s ...[text shortened]... tting you bestow sexual favours upon me. No, not you Shavixmir!
Yours,
J.C. (Pawnokeyhole)
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Originally posted by WulebgrGoodness in man is by definition not a mere passive quality, but the deliberate preference of right to wrong, the firm and persistent resistance of all moral evil, and the choosing and following of all moral good.
goodness is an abstraction that I can neither see, touch, taste, or make love to. Please be specific: to what do you refer?
Originally posted by dj2beckerMany non christian cultures practice goodness as you define it . So are they good too ?
Goodness in man is by definition not a mere passive quality, but the deliberate preference of right to wrong, the firm and persistent resistance of all moral evil, and the choosing and following of all moral good.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowNo sir. There are no people, let alone cultures, where goodness, according to this definition, is practiced.
Many non christian cultures practice goodness as you define it . So are they good too ?
Any degree of goodness, that is, any stirrings or beginning of goodness, that appears in a man is merely the fruit of his being made in God's image being made manifest. He can take no credit for it, but can instead give God thanks for instilling it in himself.
Any badness (opposition to the call of goodness) comes from man's tendency to rebel against the original 'god's image' we still carry.
Originally posted by chinking58I am sure they believe the same about you . Namaste .
No sir. There are no people, let alone cultures, where goodness, according to this definition, is practiced.
Any degree of goodness, that is, any stirrings or beginning of goodness, that appears in a man is merely the fruit of his being made in God's image being made manifest. He can take no credit for it, but can instead give God thanks for insti ...[text shortened]... s) comes from man's tendency to rebel against the original 'god's image' we still carry.
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeI was gonna give you a rec, but then I paused to consider that if you are a false prophet, the rec might be grounds to throw me in Hell for all eternity. But then, I thought again that I don't remember any passages in the Bible that clearly speak of Hell--beyond a few perplexing metaphoric passages, that is,--at least not of Hell as I've learned to understand it as a product of American culture.
Actually, I am back. However, no one seems to be believing in me. Especially given my newfound more critical stance on religion. It all started when, as the Bible correctly reports, God forsook me on the cross. I mean, I really didn't think he would do that, as my words clearly implied at the time.
Anyhow, that's all ancient history now. God, now s ...[text shortened]... tting you bestow sexual favours upon me. No, not you Shavixmir!
Yours,
J.C. (Pawnokeyhole)
I'm still thinking about that rec while struggling with my fears of eternal damnation.
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Originally posted by buckkyHow would you know it was Jesus - two photo IDs? Look at his library card? Lot's of people have claimed to be Jesus returning. How did the Christian know they were lying? Because they denied the scripture! Yep! We don't know who Jesus is except for the Bible. And since that is all we know about Jesus, one way we can test anyone claiming to be the Messiah returned is if he supports the scriptures. If that's being ridged, then the alternative is sloppy mindlessness.
If Jesus came back, and told everyone that the Bible was sort of screwed up. and a major misinterpretation of his message has been had upon the world. Would the Christians think that he must be a Demon trying to fool the people ? I'm sure t ...[text shortened]... ief. "It must be the Devil trying to trick us" would be the cry.
Originally posted by ColettiSo the Bible becomes the litmus test for the Second Coming.
How would you know it was Jesus - two photo IDs? Look at his library card? Lot's of people have claimed to be Jesus returning. How did the Christian know they were lying? Because they denied the scripture! Yep! We don't know who Jesus is except for the Bible. And since that is all we know about Jesus, one way we can test anyone claiming to be the Mes ...[text shortened]... supports the scriptures. If that's being ridged, then the alternative is sloppy mindlessness.
Sure hope all those scribes didn't make any mistakes.
Originally posted by ColettiHow do you know the Bible is reliable, and that the Qur'an is not? I suspect it has more to do with the location of your birth than any rigorous study and prayerful consideration.
How would you know it was Jesus - two photo IDs? Look at his library card? Lot's of people have claimed to be Jesus returning. How did the Christian know they were lying? Because they denied the scripture! Yep! We don't know who Jesus is except for the Bible. And since that is all we know about Jesus, one way we can test anyone claiming to be the Mes ...[text shortened]... supports the scriptures. If that's being ridged, then the alternative is sloppy mindlessness.
Originally posted by WulebgrI don't know much about the Qur'an - but the I don't think it says enough about Jesus for a Christan to consider it as a reliable source for checking against false Messiahs. Would Muslims believe it if someone claimed to be Jesus?
How do you know the Bible is reliable, and that the Qur'an is not? I suspect it has more to do with the location of your birth than any rigorous study and prayerful consideration.