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If several different things are all true, in the truest sense?

If several different things are all true, in the truest sense?

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Can one truth contradict another truth, or does that mean one, the other, or neither is actually true? Can truth be contradictive?


@kellyjay said
Can one truth contradict another truth, or does that mean one, the other, or neither is actually true? Can truth be contradictive?
I don't think objective facts can contradict each other [maybe someone will come and contradict me on that!] but people's subjective claims about what is "true" ~ with regard to things and ideas which do not fall within the realm of objectivity ~ these can, of course, contradict each other and do so all the time, I think.


By the way, if dj2becker had set up a trust fund to sponsor the staging of discussions of questions like this, his trustees would look very favourably upon this as a worthy continuation of his legacy.

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@kellyjay said
Can one truth contradict another truth, or does that mean one, the other, or neither is actually true? Can truth be contradictive?
Truth never contradicts, it only seems to when other information is lacking.

Ancient man thought the universe revolved around the earth because objects appeared to move across the sky. The fact of a revolving earth appears to contradict early man's "truth" but only because they lacked information.

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@kellyjay said
Can one truth contradict another truth, or does that mean one, the other, or neither is actually true? Can truth be contradictive?
JMHO - One truth can indeed contradict another truth. One fact however cannot contradict another fact.

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@mchill said
JMHO - One truth can indeed contradict another truth. One fact however cannot contradict another fact.
One opinion may contradict another, but the truth will never do that. Our facts are not as factual as we think they are from time to time.

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@fmf said
I don't think objective facts can contradict each other [maybe someone will come and contradict me on that!] but people's subjective claims about what is "true" ~ with regard to things and ideas which do not fall within the realm of objectivity ~ these can, of course, contradict each other and do so all the time, I think.
Even if we agree with an objective fact, we are still doing so subjectively.


@kellyjay said
Even if we agree with an objective fact, we are still doing so subjectively.
Can you give an example illustrating what you mean?

If I know that water evaporates when it is heated and so do you, how is your agreeing with me "subjective"?


@fmf said
Can you give an example illustrating what you mean?

If I know that water evaporates when it is heated and so do you, how is your agreeing with me "subjective"?
(And so do I), again, you cannot just speak to a topic without turning it into something personal.


@kellyjay said
(And so do I), again, you cannot just speak to a topic without turning it into something personal.
We are talking to each other about our personal opinions, KellyJay, and I am speaking to the topic. I asked you to give an example illustrating what you meant when you referred to "we" twice in a post I was replying to. It is you who is now trying to run away from my response by framing it as "something personal".


@mchill said
One truth can indeed contradict another truth.
By "truth" here, do you mean "perspective on the truth"?


@fmf said
Can you give an example illustrating what you mean?

If I know that water evaporates when it is heated and so do you, how is your agreeing with me "subjective"?
How did you know KellyJay evaporates when heated? 🤔


@kilroy70 said
How did you know KellyJay evaporates when heated? 🤔
Ha!


@fmf said
Ha!
If you are not insulting or setting up someone to insult, are you posting at all?

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@fmf said
Ha!
Just kidding. We all evaporate when heated. 😁

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