@fmf saidIf believing that helps you sleep at night, feel free to believe it. I’m Ok with that.
Well, if you think so, that's OK. Your 'analysis' of it suggests that you don't actually understand it and that you still don't really understand what is being discussed. But if it hasn't helped you to gain an insight into this issue, that's fine.
@pb1022 saidIf you believed that "torture in burning flames for eternity" was the ACTUAL fate ~ a ghastly, agonizing, neverending punishment ~ awaiting some of your neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at your children's school, people you know in your suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops you go to, etc. etc. how many minutes a day would you spend chatting to an atheist like me on a chess website?
This isn’t a good analogy because presumably many on the climate change message board aren’t in your village.
@fmf saidTwo hours a day.
If you believed that "torture in burning flames for eternity" was the ACTUAL fate ~ a ghastly, agonizing, neverending punishment ~ awaiting some of your neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at your children's school, people you know in your suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops you go to, etc. etc. how many minutes a day would you spend chatting to an atheist like me on a chess website?
Knowing that you’re not the only recipient of my messages.
And I’d send out an e-mail blast to neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at my children's school, people I know in my suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops I go to, etc. etc. and include my phone number at the bottom for those who want to discuss it further.
We’re not in the 1950s. We have faster and more efficient ways of communicating than going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox.
@pb1022 saidUsing your time to do this would make more sense to me.
I’d send out an e-mail blast to neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at my children's school, people I know in my suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops I go to, etc. etc. and include my phone number at the bottom for those who want to discuss it further.
@fmf saidPerhaps you should read the OP again and this paragraph in particular:
No one has suggested "going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox".
<<Then what on Earth are you doing here at RHP wasting the precious time given you which could be used to get out in the streets and speak to those who are in the most awful peril?>>
I don’t see modern technology in that paragraph. Instead, I see something quite analogous to a bullhorn and soapbox.
@fmf saidI honestly don’t have a firm belief or conviction on what happens to the lost. I should, but I don’t.
Then I would deduce that, deep down, you did not actually believe in "torture in burning flames for eternity", regardless of what your mind was urging you to do with your time and what you were espousing.
@fmf saidWhy don't you make up something; what I say has no meaning to you. It's either, as you put it, faith speech, or you change what I said to twist it to suit you.
KellyJay?
Does this analogy help you to understand my stance [as laid out on page 1]?
@kellyjay saidDoes my analogy about the wildfires help you to understand my stance? You either understand my stance or you don’t.
Why don't you make up something; what I say has no meaning to you. It's either, as you put it, faith speech, or you change what I said to twist it to suit you.
@pb1022 saidYou are the one who introduced the notion of "bullhorn and soapbox". Getting "out on the streets" is a turn of phrase meaning 'real life' as opposed to posting on a chess website message board.
You said *no one* had made such a suggestion when it’s clear the OP did.