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    28 Feb '18 02:451 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The teachings of Christ are written in the hearts of all men.
    They are the core teachings of all religions.
    Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.

    Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.

    There is a contradiction.
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    28 Feb '18 02:50
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.

    Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.

    There is a contradiction.
    Do you understand what the word core means?
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    28 Feb '18 02:51
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.

    Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.

    There is a contradiction.
    They - Confucius and Jesus - are both basically saying don't "sin". Christians talking about "forgiveness" is meaningless to the kind of people dj2becker has made this thread about ~ that is to say people who would presumably see "sin" as a metaphor for morally unsound behaviour.
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    28 Feb '18 02:52
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.

    Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.

    There is a contradiction.
    Think the "Golden Rule".
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    28 Feb '18 02:52
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Do you understand what the word core means?
    Whether he does or not, I wouldn't imagine sonship has any intention of discussing or debating the OP.
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    28 Feb '18 02:58
    Originally posted by @sonship
    From the Gospels quote one sentence attributed which you think Jesus didn't speak.
    You are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
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    28 Feb '18 03:25
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    By and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true".

    I don't shar ...[text shortened]... many Christians - many of which are antithetical to what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth.
    Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
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    28 Feb '18 03:28
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Think the "Golden Rule".
    That's a common theme of many religions.
    But "the Golden Rule" is not the entirety of the Gospel.

    Maybe you wish it was.
    But it isn't.
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    28 Feb '18 03:31
    Originally posted by @apathist
    You are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
    Check out Dr. Gary Habermas lectures on this.

    The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB

    YouTube&t=4116s
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    28 Feb '18 03:332 edits
    Originally posted by @sonship
    That's a common theme of many religions.
    But "the Golden Rule" is not the entirety of the Gospel.

    Maybe you wish it was.
    But it isn't.
    Rajk999 wrote the following:
    <<The teachings of Christ are written in the hearts of all men.
    They are the core teachings of all religions.>>

    You seemed to struggling to understand what he might have meant by this.

    The fact that you've just written "That's a common theme of many religions" seems to indicate that now you understand.

    That's why I gave you the hint.
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    28 Feb '18 03:43
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
    Not sure what you have in mind with this question. Can you elaborate?
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    28 Feb '18 04:19
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Not sure what you have in mind with this question. Can you elaborate?
    Answer it and you will see what I have in mind. 😉
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    28 Feb '18 04:26
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Answer it and you will see what I have in mind. 😉
    Taken at face value, most don't follow them including most Christians, so it's obviously optional.
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    28 Feb '18 04:35
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Taken at face value, most don't follow them including most Christians, so it's obviously optional.
    I'm asking whether or not you regard them to be optional?
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    28 Feb '18 04:36
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
    It's optional for the people your thread OP is about.
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