Originally posted by @sonship Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.
Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.
There is a contradiction.
They - Confucius and Jesus - are both basically saying don't "sin". Christians talking about "forgiveness" is meaningless to the kind of people dj2becker has made this thread about ~ that is to say people who would presumably see "sin" as a metaphor for morally unsound behaviour.
Originally posted by @sonship From the Gospels quote one sentence attributed which you think Jesus didn't speak.
You are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
Originally posted by @thinkofone By and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true".
I don't shar ...[text shortened]... many Christians - many of which are antithetical to what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth.
Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
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Originally posted by @thinkofone Think the "Golden Rule".
That's a common theme of many religions.
But "the Golden Rule" is not the entirety of the Gospel.
Maybe you wish it was.
But it isn't.
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Originally posted by @apathist You are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
Check out Dr. Gary Habermas lectures on this.
The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB