Immortality and the human condition

@pb1022 said
Did you catch what I wrote about life spans?

Assuming no afterlife, the serial killer enjoyed a long and pleasant life despite being a bad person.

The 6-year-old, despite being a good person, had a very short life.

The injustice is in the life spans not in the lack of supernatural punishment.

An "afterlife" is a supernatural phenomenon, is it not? An "afterlife" granted to one and no "afterlife" granted to the other, regardless of lifespan, is a form of supernatural punishment, right?

@fmf said
So, your personal religious affiliation aside, you agree that there is nothing wrong with the idea of a creator entity creating beings with a finite opportunity to experience life?

It seems odd, but yeah, there’s nothing wrong with it. I mean everybody gets one bite at the apple. I suppose I’d see something wrong if a “creator entity” decided only humans with brown hair would have finite lives but the rest would get an afterlife, but under your thought experiment, that’s not the case.

@pb1022 said
Why do you feel the need to ask 200 questions a day and not read half the answers?

But this is an inaccurate characterization of my contribution to the conversation.

@fmf said
An "afterlife" is a supernatural phenomenon, is it not? An "afterlife" granted to one and no "afterlife" granted to the other, regardless of lifespan, is a form of supernatural punishment, right?

No, in your thought experiment, as I understood it, no one gets an afterlife - not the serial killer and not the 6-year-old.

Therefore the injustice is in the life spans.

@fmf said
But this is an inaccurate characterization of my contribution to the conversation.

Yes, I was joking.

Have a good night (or day.)

@pb1022 said
I suppose I’d see something wrong if a “creator entity” decided only humans with brown hair would have finite lives but the rest would get an afterlife, but under your thought experiment, that’s not the case.

What does the notion of a creator entity deciding that only humans with brown hair would have finite lives have to do with my thought experiment?

@pb1022 said
No, in your thought experiment, as I understood it, no one gets an afterlife - not the serial killer and not the 6-year-old.Therefore the injustice is in the life spans.

But an "afterlife" is a supernatural state and you seem to have been saying that, for there to be justice, to your way of thinking, one should get it and the other should not.

@pb1022 said
Yes, I was joking.

I still don't understand what you gain from posting in such a split-personality way.

@fmf said
But an "afterlife" is a supernatural state and you seem to have been saying that, for there to be justice, to your way of thinking, one should get it and the other should not.

No, I’m not saying that at all. I’m simply pointing out the injustice in your OP of an afterlife not existing for anyone. If that doesn’t bother you, that’s fine. I think it’s bothersome.

@fmf said
I still don't understand what you gain from posting in such a split-personality way.

Maybe I enjoy tweaking you

@fmf said
What does the notion of a creator entity deciding that only humans with brown hair would have finite lives have to do with my thought experiment?

In that instance, there would be an obvious and perplexing (to our minds) injustice

@pb1022 said
I’m simply pointing out the injustice in your OP of an afterlife not existing for anyone.

I don't think you have made a case. I don't think imagining or hoping that there is a supernatural phenomenon like an afterlife is any kind of remedy to injustices that people experience in their lifetimes.

@fmf said
I don't think you have made a case. I don't think imagining or hoping that there is a supernatural phenomenon like an afterlife is any kind of remedy to injustices that people experience in their lifetimes.

I think your statement is absurd.

Are you telling me a 6-year-old who dies of cancer, who is essentially cheated out of his entire life on earth, does not receive compensation by experiencing a far better and eternal afterlife in Heaven, where all the problems of this world do not exist?

@pb1022 said
Are you telling me a 6-year-old who dies of cancer, who is essentially cheated out of his entire life on earth, does not receive compensation by experiencing a far better and eternal afterlife in Heaven, where all the problems of this world do not exist?

I don't see how belief in there being supernatural compensation of some kind alters the here-on-Earth tragedy of a child dying of cancer.

@fmf said
I don't see how belief in there being supernatural compensation of some kind alters the here-on-Earth tragedy of a child dying of cancer.

So an eternal life in Heaven, free from the heartache and troubles and violence of this world, is no compensation for a 6-year-old who lost his life to cancer.

Why do you stubbornly cling to arguments and positions that have been blown out of the water?