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Can anybody point out even one article published in a respectable scientific journal arguing the case for Intelligent Design Theory?
Much obliged.
SJEG
Much obliged.
SJEG
Originally posted by sjegThe American Museum of Natural History ran an article on the ID v Evolution argument, and a kind of i-say, you-say way in their magazine.
Can anybody point out even one article published in a respectable scientific journal arguing the case for Intelligent Design Theory?
Much obliged.
SJEG
Originally posted by tojoThat one word is the crux of it, the word VALID. ID'ers have no
The American Museum of Natural History ran an article on the ID v Evolution argument, and a kind of i-say, you-say way in their magazine.
It is biased towards Evolution, as it is a posit from an ID theorist, followed by an Evolutionists response. Then another ID posit, followed by response. The ID guys are never allowed to respond to the Evolutionists, and s ...[text shortened]... argument for ID put forward, however, instead of just a religious rant, even if it is biased...
Originally posted by sonhouseI would say that it is not for a lack of valid arguement, but rather a lack of empirical evidence. ID by it very nature is incapable of being verified or disproved by observatior or experiment.
That one word is the crux of it, the word VALID. ID'ers have no
valid arguments which is why there have been no peer reviewed
papers published. The ID'ers are not interested in real scientific
crash bang paper for paper debate in a real science journal, wanting
only one thing: the forcing of education boards to teach faith based
dogma side by side w ...[text shortened]...
virus and single celled life came first then evolutionary experiments
with multicelled forms.
Originally posted by OmnislashGiven that context, ID is not science. Should public school boards still be forced to add ID to their science curriculum?
As such, it is futile to attempt to force it to meet the criteria of a system based upon empirical evidence. The theorum is not based upon emirical evidence, and as such can not be fairly evaluated by means of empirical evidence.
Originally posted by OmnislashI join David C when I ask; If ID is not based on empirical evidence then why call it science at all?
I would say that it is not for a lack of valid arguement, but rather a lack of empirical evidence. ID by it very nature is incapable of being verified or disproved by observatior or experiment.
As such, it is futile to attempt to force it to meet the criteria of a system based upon empirical evidence. The theorum is not based upon emirical evidence, an ...[text shortened]... views. Let me assure you they do not speak for all believers of ID.
Best Regards,
Omnislash
Originally posted by OmnislashI quote myself in order to make myself clear, in that my assertion is not that ID is science, for it certainly is not. As my posts states, ID can neither be verified nor disproved by empirical evidence. Thusly, it can not be scientific.
I would say that it is not for a lack of valid arguement, but rather a lack of empirical evidence. ID by it very nature is incapable of being verified or disproved by observatior or experiment.
As such, it is futile to attempt to force it to meet the criteria of a system based upon empirical evidence. The theorum is not based upon emirical evidence, an ...[text shortened]... views. Let me assure you they do not speak for all believers of ID.
Best Regards,
Omnislash
Originally posted by David CIs reading science, is home ec, is history, philosophy, and so on?
Given that context, ID is not science. Should public school boards still be forced to add ID to their science curriculum?
Originally posted by sjegSjeg: "Doesn't this come down to the fact that science and faith are irreconcilable?"
Interesting posts- thank you all very much.
Doesn't this come down to the fact that science and faith are irreconcilable?
Question: can one be a scientist and a religious man?
I remember my biology teacher in school- a staunch Methodist, of all things (you know, the fellows who can't gamble, and use blackcurrant cordial in their "Eucharist", as ...[text shortened]... ty around us, because either way, we are blessed.
That's my humble 2 farthings. What say ye?
Originally posted by OmnislashHere is my main argument: I am making the assumption you
I would say that it is not for a lack of valid arguement, but rather a lack of empirical evidence. ID by it very nature is incapable of being verified or disproved by observatior or experiment.
As such, it is futile to attempt to force it to meet the criteria of a system based upon empirical evidence. The theorum is not based upon emirical evidence, an ...[text shortened]... views. Let me assure you they do not speak for all believers of ID.
Best Regards,
Omnislash