Intelligent Design?

Originally posted by Halitose
I think your understanding of the big bang needs a little polishing. Scienctists look at currently observable phenomenon such as red shift, background radiation and an abundance of helium and then deduct that the universe must be expanding. From this model of an expanding universe together with the wishful thinking of uniformitarianism, science then extrapo ...[text shortened]... ds you need to know that this is speculation and in my opinion not science but creative writing.

Originally posted by frogstomp
It's tough to post the mathematics involved without having the proper fonts.
And really you only have your opinion.

tell you what go to this site : click on cosmology. or hit basics and use the advanced mode

Originally posted by dj2becker
My dear Froggy, the day you realise that Maths cannot [b]prove the big bang theory you will have learnt a lot...[/b]

Originally posted by frogstomp
It's tough to post the mathematics involved without having the proper fonts.
And really you only have your opinion.

tell you what go to this site : click on cosmology. or hit basics and use the advanced mode

edit LOL

http://superstringtheory.com/index.html

Originally posted by Halitose
Thanks. LOL. I'll be needing the basics version. Will be back with my thoughts.

Originally posted by dj2becker
My dear Froggy, the day you realise that Maths cannot [b]prove the big bang theory you will have learnt a lot...[/b]

Originally posted by frogstomp
you're welcome, but remember when you get to ekpyrotics there's an expansion to it being developed.

Originally posted by aardvarkhome
What he said

Originally posted by dj2becker
[b]My dear Froggy, the day you realise that any amount of rigorously tested evidence cannot [b]prove anything that does not appear in the bible to my satisfaction you will have learnt a lot about tossers like me..[/b]

What he meant[/b]

Originally posted by Halitose
I personally prefer the Lambda-Cold Dark Matter to the Ekpyrotic model, although they both have some inherent questions (and problems) that cannot yet be answered by science.

A couple that are really begging the question are: was all this matter or brane eternally existant or created?

If there was a big bang, what happened split second before that, ...[text shortened]... atter?

Edit: I hope the expansion addresses some of the major problems I see with ekpyrotics.

King yelled “Play ball!” and promptly asked the fundamentalist preacher, “John MacArthur, do you believe the world is only 5,000 years old?” Rev. MacArthur allowed that it might be as much as 10,000 years. Oh, boy. Then, to demonstrate we were on a level playing field, King promptly turned to Ms. Forrest, philosophy prof and DH, to ask, “If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys?”

King needs to use _non_ fundy Christians. The logical ones who believe in the concept of Parable.

This same preacher probably tells the story about the prodigal son, during his homily and tells it like it is... a story about returning to where you are loved.

A story.

Same thing with Genesis. A parable written during a time when people had no idea that the earth even revolved around the sun.

Once you "accept" that, you realize that 6 days, 10,00 years, all of that is parable. Why? Because science has worked _with_ theology to prove it to be parable.

Why do I think I am an odd man in that I believe in the big bang, evolution, and Catholicism??

Originally posted by Morren
Why do I think I am an odd man in that I believe in the big bang, evolution, and Catholicism??

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
One question to see how odd you are--do you think adherents of other religions are doomed to hellfire eternal, gnash gnash?

Originally posted by Morren

I think those that _choose_ to ignore God, at the time of death (meaning, after they have died), are seperated from God.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Is this choice--to accept or reject God--available to non-Christians?

Originally posted by Morren
Yeah, that's what I meant. Being that I believe everyone to be created by God (via *gasp* evolution! 😛), and free to make the choices they desire to make.

When you die, I believe you are presented with the choice.

The same choice you have your entire life.

Much like Pascal's Wager.