17 May 05
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.
Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?
17 May 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThe words "Wrong" and "Strong" rhyme, while "Bleak" does not rhyme with the others.
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.
Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?
17 May 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesdoes the wrong atheist 'know' that he has been condemned to hell by god? i assume not, or he would reach a contradiction when he insists that god does not exist. so does the wrong atheist know where he is, and if so, how does he think he got there?
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.
the wrong atheist position seems, to me, at first glance, to be contradictory -- the wrong atheist could not himself know that he is a wrong atheist (by your definition of a wrong atheist) or he would reach the above contradiction. so if a dead person told me 'i am a wrong atheist', i would conclude that he is just stubborn and deep down knows that he was wrong before when he was some other form of atheist.
17 May 05
Originally posted by LemonJelloYou have hit upon the main similarity between Strong and Wrong atheism.
does the wrong atheist 'know' that he has been condemned to hell by god? i assume not, or he would reach a contradiction when he insists that god does not exist. so does the wrong atheist know where he is, and if so, how does he think he got there?
the wrong atheist position seems, to me, at first glance, to be contradictory -- the wrong atheist co ...[text shortened]... st stubborn and deep down knows that he was wrong before when he was some other form of atheist.
Take a stab at Wrong and Bleak now.
17 May 05
Originally posted by telerionIn the sense that it's an untenable position that tries to get the best of both worlds, yes.
Meek Atheism? Isn't that kind of like classy feminism or altruistic capitalism?
Meek Atheism has been introduced here a couple months ago. It is best defined in contrast to Weak Atheism, by examining these two conversations.
Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Weak Atheist: No, there is not sufficient evidence to convince me of his existence.
Theist: So what? Why do you conclude God doesn't exist from that?
Weak Atheist: I also believe that claims of existence should not be believed without observing sufficient evidence to support them. Thus, I deduce that I do not believe in God.
Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: No.
Theist: Do you believe that the claim of his existence lacks sufficient evidence?
Meek Atheist: No.
Theist: Well, why don't you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: I don't assert any beliefs at all.
17 May 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI think I need to do my homework on RHP Atheism.
In the sense that it's an untenable position that tries to get the best of both worlds, yes.
Meek Atheism has been introduced here a couple months ago. It is best defined in contrast to Weak Atheism, by examining these two conversations.
Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Weak Atheist: No, there is not sufficient evidence ...[text shortened]... heist: Well, why don't you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: I don't assert any beliefs at all.
17 May 05
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Originally posted by telerionFor this thread, you'll need to know about Bleak Atheism, which, in short, is the position that the world is so awful, hopeless, and bleak that it could not be under the control of a benevolent and omnipotent God, and thus such a God does not exist. You can think of it as one viewpoint that can result from accepting the General Argument from Evil.
I think I need to do my homework on RHP Atheism.
17 May 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesIt is impossible for there to exist a wrong atheist, as no perfectly just God would condemn a soul to eternal torment.
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.
Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?