Introducing Wrong Atheism

Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.

Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.

Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?

The words "Wrong" and "Strong" rhyme, while "Bleak" does not rhyme with the others.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.

does the wrong atheist 'know' that he has been condemned to hell by god? i assume not, or he would reach a contradiction when he insists that god does not exist. so does the wrong atheist know where he is, and if so, how does he think he got there?

the wrong atheist position seems, to me, at first glance, to be contradictory -- the wrong atheist could not himself know that he is a wrong atheist (by your definition of a wrong atheist) or he would reach the above contradiction. so if a dead person told me 'i am a wrong atheist', i would conclude that he is just stubborn and deep down knows that he was wrong before when he was some other form of atheist.

so if a dead person told me 'i am a wrong atheist', i would conclude that he is just stubborn and deep down knows that he was wrong before when he was some other form of atheist.

You're first conclusion should be that either you are dead as well or insane.

Originally posted by telerion
The words "Wrong" and "Strong" rhyme, while "Bleak" does not rhyme with the others.

Bleak Atheism rhymes with its brothers Weak and Meek Atheism.

Originally posted by LemonJello
does the wrong atheist 'know' that he has been condemned to hell by god? i assume not, or he would reach a contradiction when he insists that god does not exist. so does the wrong atheist know where he is, and if so, how does he think he got there?

the wrong atheist position seems, to me, at first glance, to be contradictory -- the wrong atheist co ...[text shortened]... st stubborn and deep down knows that he was wrong before when he was some other form of atheist.

You have hit upon the main similarity between Strong and Wrong atheism.

Take a stab at Wrong and Bleak now.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Bleak Atheism rhymes with its brothers Weak and Meek Atheism.

Meek Atheism? Isn't that kind of like classy feminism or altruistic capitalism?

Originally posted by telerion
Meek Atheism? Isn't that kind of like classy feminism or altruistic capitalism?

In the sense that it's an untenable position that tries to get the best of both worlds, yes.

Meek Atheism has been introduced here a couple months ago. It is best defined in contrast to Weak Atheism, by examining these two conversations.

Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Weak Atheist: No, there is not sufficient evidence to convince me of his existence.
Theist: So what? Why do you conclude God doesn't exist from that?
Weak Atheist: I also believe that claims of existence should not be believed without observing sufficient evidence to support them. Thus, I deduce that I do not believe in God.

Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: No.
Theist: Do you believe that the claim of his existence lacks sufficient evidence?
Meek Atheist: No.
Theist: Well, why don't you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: I don't assert any beliefs at all.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
In the sense that it's an untenable position that tries to get the best of both worlds, yes.

Meek Atheism has been introduced here a couple months ago. It is best defined in contrast to Weak Atheism, by examining these two conversations.

Theist: I claim God exists. Do you believe in God?
Weak Atheist: No, there is not sufficient evidence ...[text shortened]... heist: Well, why don't you believe in God?
Meek Atheist: I don't assert any beliefs at all.

I think I need to do my homework on RHP Atheism.

Originally posted by telerion
I think I need to do my homework on RHP Atheism.

For this thread, you'll need to know about Bleak Atheism, which, in short, is the position that the world is so awful, hopeless, and bleak that it could not be under the control of a benevolent and omnipotent God, and thus such a God does not exist. You can think of it as one viewpoint that can result from accepting the General Argument from Evil.

Originally posted by telerion
You're first conclusion should be that either you are dead as well or insane.

touche'

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles

Take a stab at Wrong and Bleak now.

i'm going to have to give this some thought...

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Wrong Atheism is the position held by any soul who has already died and been condemned to hell by God, who continues to insist that God does not exist, for no just God could condemn people to eternal torment.

Several interesting observations come to light when comparing Wrong Atheism with Strong Atheism, as well as with Bleak atheism. What are they?

It is impossible for there to exist a wrong atheist, as no perfectly just God would condemn a soul to eternal torment.

Originally posted by bbarr
It is impossible for there to exist a wrong atheist, as no perfectly just God would condemn a soul to eternal torment.

Why not? The second proposition, I mean.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
Why not? The second proposition, I mean.

Because it follows analytically from the notion of 'just'.