22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusWhat do you mean by "Christianity"? And what do you mean by "true"? Does your question presuppose that there may be other true religions than Christianity?
Is anyone here interested in finding out if Christianity is true? Please, this isn't another attack thread, I'm truly curious if anyone is just interested in the truth, no matter the ramifications.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusNice to see you back again, been on holiday?
Is anyone here interested in finding out if Christianity is true? Please, this isn't another attack thread, I'm truly curious if anyone is just interested in the truth, no matter the ramifications.
Yes I am interested, how do you plan to proceed?
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by StarrmanThanks, Starr, you too. No, I have finals soon. Then holiday. 🙂
Nice to see you back again, been on holiday?
Yes I am interested, how do you plan to proceed?
I'm glad to hear you're interested. I will continue tomorrow, I'm off to bed as I have to get up early. Don't worry, I'll get to it first thing.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusWhat does "only way" mean? How does one get on this way? How does one recognise it?
Is Jesus the only way to Heaven.
Is Jesus the only way to Heaven.
No.
What is Heaven? What are its characteristics?
If "No" is the answer to my third question, then perhaps you should've asked "Is only Christianity true?"
22 Apr 05
Out of curiosity - why are you interested in Christianity and not other religions? Do you intend to follow a religion? Why? You can be atheist or a believer but non-subscriber (like I am in RHP!).
Find your own path and don’t listen to people who try and sell you things - ESPECIALLY religion. Ask them "er..why do you believe that?" and if they say "because it's written..." then politely say goodbye.
Search for the truth, but question what you find.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerOnly way means there is no other way on earth to go to Heaven when you die except through Christ Jesus.
What does "only way" mean? How does one get on this way? How does one recognise it?
What is Heaven? What are its characteristics?
If "No" is the answer to my third question, then perhaps you should've asked "Is only Christianity true?"
One gets on this way by asking Christ into their lives in humility and believing He died for their sins and rose again.
One recognizes it by a change in their lives and a security in knowing you are saved from your self-induced path to Hell through sin.
Heaven is where God is.
Since Heaven is where God is, it is pure happiness, love and eternal life with none of the opposites of those.
Yes, you are correct. Is only Christianity true?
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusCool, are you going to establish that Christianity is true? Yippie! Let's begin with your first premise...
Is anyone here interested in finding out if Christianity is true? Please, this isn't another attack thread, I'm truly curious if anyone is just interested in the truth, no matter the ramifications.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by StarrmanI'd like to know what you think of this quote, Starr. Please bear with me, it's a Bible verse, but I promise not to be circular. 🙂
Nice to see you back again, been on holiday?
Yes I am interested, how do you plan to proceed?
1st Corinthians 1:20-25 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by bbarrI'm afraid I will have to use more than logic in this thread, Bennett. 🙂
Cool, are you going to establish that Christianity is true? Yippie! Let's begin with your first premise...
That may turn you off, my friend, but I'm afraid it's necessary. Hope you're still interested in participating. And I don't know if I will 'establish' Christianity's veracity, as that final step is for God to do if He wills, but I hope to make it appear so. 🙂
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusAre you going to use anything besides Biblical quotes that merely restate the theological philosophy of the author like the one from 1 Corinthians you gave?
I'm afraid I will have to use more than logic in this thread, Bennett. 🙂
That may turn you off, my friend, but I'm afraid it's necessary. Hope you're still interested in participating. And I don't know if I will 'establish' Christianity's veracity, as that final step is for God to do if He wills, but I hope to make it appear so. 🙂
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderWould you humor me and think of God as the author of the Bible, no1? Just for the purposes of the thread? Don't worry, I don't think pretending gets you in danger of getting theist juice on you. 😉
Are you going to use anything besides Biblical quotes that merely restate the theological philosophy of the author like the one from 1 Corinthians you gave?
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by DarfiusIf I accept that God is the author of the Bible then, of course, Christianity is true. If that's all you're trying to prove then you win. The question is really can you logically prove that God is the author of the Bible? And secondly, as I presume you are talking about your fundamentalist cult brand of Christianity and not say, the Christianity that the Roman Catholic Church or Unitarians believe in, you'd have to prove why your brand is more correct. Good luck; you've been trying to do both for months now with a noticeable lack of success. I believe your problem is A) You're not all that knowledgeable about other branches of Christianity itself; and B) You cannot admit the possibility of error in the smallest degree in anything you assert as part of your doctrine.But it's a free forum; knock yourself out.
Would you humor me and think of God as the author of the Bible, no1? Just for the purposes of the thread? Don't worry, I don't think pretending gets you in danger of getting theist juice on you. 😉