Is GFA Constitutional?

Originally posted by sumydid
Why were Muslims given waivers for Obamacare--based on religious grounds--if by the same token, Christians are not allowed a waiver based on religious grounds? If Muslims are given a waiver, the Federal Government is already conceding the 1st Amendment argument.

I seem to recall this came up on the Debates Forum and was exposed as a figment of right wing blogosphere's imagination and extrapolation although I cannot remember which thread.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm

If you believe American Muslims have been given "waivers for Obamacare" would you mind explaining exactly what you mean?

Originally posted by FMF
I seem to recall this came up on the Debates Forum and was exposed as a figment of right wing blogosphere's imagination and extrapolation although I cannot remember which thread.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm

If you believe American Muslims have been given "waivers for Obamacare" would you mind explaining exactly what you mean?

Thanks FMF.

The lawsuits that I have seen have argued that the plaintiffs are organisations which should rightly fall into the specific exemption provided for, which is open to all religions. They have not argued that using taxpayers money to fund abortion is against the 1st Amendment, which they concede us permissible.

It is a mischaracterisation of the legal arguments being made, and arguing that these cases give credence to challenging the 1st Amendment on this basis is, from a legal perspective, simply wrong. It is not comparing like with like.

Originally posted by FMF
I seem to recall this came up on the Debates Forum and was exposed as a figment of right wing blogosphere's imagination and extrapolation although I cannot remember which thread.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm

If you believe American Muslims have been given "waivers for Obamacare" would you mind explaining exactly what you mean?

Hmm.. interesting. The word "dhimmitude" comes to mind. It seems I was the recipient of the chain letter that the urbanlegends site makes example of. What the website says, though, is the argument of dhimmitude on behalf of Muslims may very well have merit, but no Muslim has chosen to exercise it yet.

I was under the understanding that a specific provision was made in the Obamacare law itself, and that's true and untrue. There are provisions in Obamacare that say anyone is free to claim exemption based on religious grounds... but, the law does not specifically award an exemption to Muslims.

Personally, I think the Muslim "dhimmitude" line of reasoning holds far less water than my argument.

Good points though... I made a bad assumption. I'll retract that angle from my argument but really it was an "icing on the cake" segment and not integral to the issue I'm raising anyway.