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    23 Apr '06 16:081 edit
    Has the West created a fallacy, that hetrosexuality is normative? Are we in reality naturally androgenous?
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    23 Apr '06 16:101 edit
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Has the West created a fallacy, that hetrosexuality is normative? Are we in reality naturally androgenous?
    Queue "ontological priority" jibe.
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    23 Apr '06 16:11
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Que "ontological priority" jibe.
    ok, does ontological priority designate us with an androgenous sexuality, happy now?
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    23 Apr '06 17:061 edit
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Has the West created a fallacy, that hetrosexuality is normative? Are we in reality naturally androgenous?
    Androgyny is separate from sexual orientation. It can either be physiological, or it can be a matter of gender identity.

    Edit: By the way, what is this doing in the Spirituality Forum?
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    23 Apr '06 17:121 edit
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    Androgyny is separate from sexual orientation. It can either be physiological, or it can be a matter of gender identity.
    Biologically many would agree that we are an adrogenous species....gender is a matter of identity and that is enforced through categories of society not through natural selection....As I asked earlier are we androgenous is hetrosexuality part a social normativity?
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    23 Apr '06 20:38
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    Androgyny is separate from sexual orientation. It can either be physiological, or it can be a matter of gender identity.

    Edit: By the way, what is this doing in the Spirituality Forum?
    Why would you ask that, you don't think sex has anything to do with
    man's spiritual side?
    Kelly
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    23 Apr '06 20:51
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Why would you ask that, you don't think sex has anything to do with
    man's spiritual side?
    Kelly
    I have never made that connection. Do you think it does? But even if it does, Vladimir's question didn't seem to be about a possible spiritual aspect of sex. There are many things I can think of which can have a spiritual component, for example music or the aurora borealis, both of which I have posted about here in a spiritual context. But I wouldn't discuss music or the aurora here if I were not specifically referring to the spiritual aspect of it.
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    I would contend that "life" has something to do with spirituality (or spirituality has something to do with life). I think we obsess about the sexual aspect due to the rather black and white nature ot it, in the sense of what is normative. This, I predicate upon the notion that the masses equate normative with spiritual (in the most general sense, non denominational).
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    25 Apr '06 18:371 edit
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    I have never made that connection. Do you think it does? But even if it does, Vladimir's question didn't seem to be about a possible spiritual aspect of sex. There are many things I can think of which can have a spiritual component, for example music or the aurora borealis, both of which I have posted about here in a spiritual context. But I wouldn't discuss music or the aurora here if I were not specifically referring to the spiritual aspect of it.
    The only way that sex is spiritual is in the sense of tantric sex or 'true' lovemaking...

    and no Nordlys I won't show you, you got to stop asking me that 😉
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