12 Jul '08 10:02>2 edits
This was a debate between a guy named Jay and various muslims on
youtube (have no idea if they're still at it), but I found his argument
slightly humorous. I would post this in debate, because that's what I'm
looking for here, but there's been enough of this spiritual mumbo jumbo
in there of late, so I take it here.
Now, muslims claim that Jesus was merely a prophet and a man. Not
God. To be God and have to go to the toilet is a ridiculous thought, they
apparently say.
What Jay is saying (if you care not to, or cannot view the video) is that
even though Jesus came to earth as a man, lived as a man, with all the
flaws of a regular man, he was indeed God. But while in the form of a
man, he had to pray to God because he had left his divine powers; his
omnipotence behind to become a man for a human lifetime so that he
could pass on the word of God to humanity. Right? I think it boils down
to that.
??
Am I the only one having a problem with this? If he's God, then surely
he could also have stepped down onto earth looking like a man
but with all the powers of God? Wouldn't that be a bit more
convincing? Look! There's God. We know this because he can pull some
weird shit on us and if we try to strike him down he still stands
without a scratch.
He speaks. Thus, it's the word of God. Who needs a bible, when God is
right there speaking to us directly?
So, he kinda shot himself in the foot there, didn't he? 😕
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Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if I post the actual youtube link, right? 😵
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zuFxmZOiOzE&feature=user
youtube (have no idea if they're still at it), but I found his argument
slightly humorous. I would post this in debate, because that's what I'm
looking for here, but there's been enough of this spiritual mumbo jumbo
in there of late, so I take it here.
Now, muslims claim that Jesus was merely a prophet and a man. Not
God. To be God and have to go to the toilet is a ridiculous thought, they
apparently say.
What Jay is saying (if you care not to, or cannot view the video) is that
even though Jesus came to earth as a man, lived as a man, with all the
flaws of a regular man, he was indeed God. But while in the form of a
man, he had to pray to God because he had left his divine powers; his
omnipotence behind to become a man for a human lifetime so that he
could pass on the word of God to humanity. Right? I think it boils down
to that.
??
Am I the only one having a problem with this? If he's God, then surely
he could also have stepped down onto earth looking like a man
but with all the powers of God? Wouldn't that be a bit more
convincing? Look! There's God. We know this because he can pull some
weird shit on us and if we try to strike him down he still stands
without a scratch.
He speaks. Thus, it's the word of God. Who needs a bible, when God is
right there speaking to us directly?
So, he kinda shot himself in the foot there, didn't he? 😕
---
Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if I post the actual youtube link, right? 😵
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zuFxmZOiOzE&feature=user