07 May 22
People, like me, are often accused of being cowards for admitting that they don't the origin of the universe and also of being a coward for not coming up with an explanation to compete with religious narratives.
Can people insisting that they "know" things that ~ in fact, they do not know ~ be detrimental or hampering in any way to one's spiritual self and to one's interactions with others on spiritual questions?
07 May 22
@fmf saidIt’s deluded thinking to claim to “know” something which is clearly unknowable.
People, like me, are often accused of being cowards for admitting that they don't the origin of the universe and also of being a coward for not coming up with an explanation to compete with religious narratives.
Can people insisting that they "know" things that ~ in fact, they do not know ~ be detrimental or hampering in any way to one's spiritual self and to one's interactions with others on spiritual questions?
08 May 22
@fmf saidPeople that form beliefs and opinions based on mis-, dis- and/or malinformation, or worse, flatly deny the existence of a creator God based on the idea of the lack of evidence, are willingly subjecting themselves to the logical flaw of contradiction.
People, like me, are often accused of being cowards for admitting that they don't the origin of the universe and also of being a coward for not coming up with an explanation to compete with religious narratives.
Can people insisting that they "know" things that ~ in fact, they do not know ~ be detrimental or hampering in any way to one's spiritual self and to one's interactions with others on spiritual questions?
Claiming to "know" something, as when one states "there is no God", when one doesn't have enough information upon which to make such a claim, is a self-evident contradictory logical flaw.
Logically, one would have to be omniscient to know a creator doesn't exist. Contrarily, fortunately, omniscience is not required to know God exists.
08 May 22
@divegeester saidLike what?
It’s deluded thinking to claim to “know” something which is clearly unknowable.
@josephw saidI myself do not make the claim that "there is no God" - and don't see how I could. Having said that, I don't think the claim that there is no God can be described as self-evidently contradictory or that it is logically flawed. That sounds a bit like banter.
Claiming to "know" something, as when one states "there is no God", when one doesn't have enough information upon which to make such a claim, is a self-evident contradictory logical flaw.
09 May 22
@josephw saidYou believe God exists; you don't know it. Using the word "know" in this context is nothing more than you being rhetorically ostentatious about how certain you are about your faith.
Logically, one would have to be omniscient to know a creator doesn't exist. Contrarily, fortunately, omniscience is not required to know God exists.
09 May 22
@fmf saidWhen you say "banter" what you really mean is you don't understand what you read.
I myself do not make the claim that "there is no God" - and don't see how I could. Having said that, I don't think the claim that there is no God can be described as self-evidently contradictory or that it is logically flawed. That sounds a bit like banter.
09 May 22
@fmf saidI "know" God personally.
You believe God exists; you don't know it. Using the word "know" in this context is nothing more than you being rhetorically ostentatious about how certain you are about your faith.
You don't believe that. And because you don't "know" God you don't believe anyone else does either. That's fine. You are free to think as you wish.
09 May 22
@josephw saidWhere did you get this gobbledygook from?
People that form beliefs and opinions based on mis-, dis- and/or malinformation, or worse, flatly deny the existence of a creator God based on the idea of the lack of evidence, are willingly subjecting themselves to the logical flaw of contradiction.
09 May 22
@divegeester saidAnd you're as divisive as ever.
And yet you’re still an arrogant abusive blowhard.