is Satan actually God's first Son?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Read Hebrews the entire first chapter:

1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and ...[text shortened]... ationship
between us and angels, between Jesus and angels.
Kelly

I'm guess still not clear on this as I don't know much about angels and their place in the hierarchy of sentient beings.

Here's a crazy question: could a being such as Satan ever gain salvation, hypothetically speaking? Your answer may clear up my confusion.

Thanks.

Originally posted by eagles54
Thanks.

Subsequently, I've found the following:

"How art thou fallen from heaven
O day-star, son of the morning! (Helel ben Shahar)
How art thou cast down to the ground,
That didst cast lots over the nations!
And thou saidst in thy heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
Above the stars of God (El)
Will I exalt my throne;
And I will sit upon the ...[text shortened]... e brought dow to the nether-world,
To the uttermost parts of the pit."
- Isaiah 14:12-15

this may have happened in GENESIS 1:1, which caused GENESIS 1:2. Just a thought.

Originally posted by eagles54
I'm guess still not clear on this as I don't know much about angels and their place in the hierarchy of sentient beings.

Here's a crazy question: could a being such as Satan ever gain salvation, hypothetically speaking? Your answer may clear up my confusion.

Thanks.

To answerer a question need to ask aquestion. What can satan ever do to recieve salvation? If he could repent would he not have done so by now? Read again ISAIAH chapter 14, and look at the I wills. In Lucifer's worship of GOD, he decided to worship himself. He basicly tried to murder GOD. Which may be that unforgiveable sin that CHRIST talked about.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
In Lucifer's worship of GOD, he decided to worship himself. He basicly tried to murder GOD. Which may be that unforgiveable sin that CHRIST talked about.

What would make his mind so different from ours that he could not receive God's grace? Obviously, a mind can be changed, for better or for worse. Does any being, Satan included, wish to suffer forever? He may see the error of his ways one day and sincerely ask forgiveness. I'm not being facetious, I'm asking a sincere question.

Originally posted by eagles54
What would make his mind so different from ours that he could not receive God's grace? Obviously, a mind can be changed, for better or for worse. Does any being, Satan included, wish to suffer forever? He may see the error of his ways one day and sincerely ask forgiveness. I'm not being facetious, I'm asking a sincere question.

It could be that there was wternity past, Lucifer was there and saw all that GOD had done up to that point. GOD had given Lucifer a job to do. He was a trusted servant, who knew better. Why Pride entered him, we would have to study what Pride is and, its cause. We humans whether or not we are saved or not, Have regrets. There has never been a word said whether satan has regrets for what he has done. If he had regrets and asked for forgiveness, maybe there would be a road to forgiveness. But after his rebellion in heaven, GOD gave him time to think about his actions. His response was to convince man to sin. Problely in the garden of eden, if man would have owned up to his sin, there would have problely been instant forgiveness. Satan has never asked therfore there can never be forgiveness for him. All of creation will see what happens when you try to live without GOD. And there will be no longer any reason to rebell against the will of GOD.

Originally posted by eagles54
I'm guess still not clear on this as I don't know much about angels and their place in the hierarchy of sentient beings.

Here's a crazy question: could a being such as Satan ever gain salvation, hypothetically speaking? Your answer may clear up my confusion.

Thanks.

No, they are deemed and know it.
Kelly