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Originally posted by Starrman
No, since there is no proof Jesus rose from the dead, and his entire huan existence is also debateable.
The evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ has been more carefully examined than the evidence for any other fact of history! It has been weighed and considered by the greatest of scholars, among them Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard from 1833 to 1848 who helped bring Harvard Law School to preeminence and who has been called the greatest authority on legal evidences in the history of the world. When Greenleaf turned his mind upon the resurrection of Christ and focused upon the light of all the laws of evidence, he concluded that the resurrection of Christ was a reality, that it was a historical event, and that anyone who examined the evidence for it honestly would be convinced this was the case.
Simon Greenleaf, The Testimony of the Evangelists (1847; reprinted., Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker House, 1965), 28-30.
15 Apr 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerIs it that there are those who chose just not to believe?
Originally posted by Starrman
[b]No, since there is no proof Jesus rose from the dead, and his entire huan existence is also debateable.
The evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ has been more carefully examined than the evidence for any other fact of history! It has been weighed and considered by the greatest of scholars, among th ...[text shortened]... stimony of the Evangelists (1847; reprinted., Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker House, 1965), 28-30.[/i][/b]
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Originally posted by blindfaith101Well there are quite a few who chose not to believe but when they critically examine the evidence they change their mind...
Is it that there are those who chose just not to believe?
It was the case with Frank Morison, a British lawyer who set out to write a book repudiating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He wrote his book, but it is not the book he set out to write. As he examined the evidence for the resurrection of Christ, this sceptical lawyer found it so overwhelming he was forced to accept it and became a believer. The book he did write, titled Who moved the Stone?, sets forth the evidence of the resurrection of Christ, and its first chapter is called "The Book That refused to be Written." Lew Wallace also set out to write a book disproving the deity of Christ and His resurrection and ended up writting a famous book defending it. The book was titled Ben Hur.
15 Apr 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerPlease actually present some evidence, rather than saying somebody else believed it to be true.
Well there are quite a few who chose not to believe but when they critically examine the evidence they change their mind...
It was the case with Frank Morison, a British lawyer who set out to write a book repudiating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He wrote his book, but it is not the book he set out to write. As he examined the evidence for the resur ...[text shortened]... is resurrection and ended up writting a famous book defending it. The book was titled Ben Hur.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerOver 100 years ago, a lawyer named Simon Greenleaf said it's true?
Originally posted by Starrman
[b]No, since there is no proof Jesus rose from the dead, and his entire huan existence is also debateable.
The evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ has been more carefully examined t ...[text shortened]... 47; reprinted., Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker House, 1965), 28-30.[/i][/b]
Well shucks, that settles it!
15 Apr 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerWait! Now Frank Morison and Lew Wallace, too?
Well there are quite a few who chose not to believe but when they critically examine the evidence they change their mind...
It was the case with Frank Morison, a British lawyer who set out to write a book repudiating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He wrote his book, but it is not the book he set out to write. As he examined the evidence for the resur ...[text shortened]... is resurrection and ended up writting a famous book defending it. The book was titled Ben Hur.
I'm bowled over. 🙄
15 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderI agree. Supply some actual evidence. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets tired of all the name dropping, especially when I've never heard of them. You guys keep saying that if I were to honestly examine the "evidence" then I could not help but believe, but continually fail to actually supply this evidence! Stop wasting space.
Please actually present some evidence, rather than saying somebody else believed it to be true.
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Originally posted by thesonofsaulExpect a lot of "where is Jesus' body" tripe that has already been endlessly hashed out in other threads. Expect also a bunch of references to the Bible. Expect references to Tacitius and Josephus, although neither said Jesus was resurrected; only that Christians believed he was (Tacitus called such a belief a "pernicious superstition"😉. I think that's about all they've got and we've been all through it; it is not exactly proof "that would stand up in any court of law" as Darfius once claimed. And "The evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ has been more carefully examined than the evidence for any other fact of history!" is complete BS unless you call the Bible "the evidence" and consider that because a lot of people have read it they've "carefully examined" this "evidence".
I agree. Supply some actual evidence. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets tired of all the name dropping, especially when I've never heard of them. You guys keep saying that if I were to honestly examine the "evidence" then ...[text shortened]... actually supply this evidence! Stop wasting space.
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