31 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidFinite, and with not a single blood-soaked, whore-ridden multi-headed beast anywhere.
Is the universe we live in eternal in size or scope?
I say, no.
31 Aug 19
@caesar-salad saidAww, c'mon, really??
I'm not at liberty to say.
Why even post if you've got THAT attitude?
31 Aug 19
@bigdoggproblem said"THAT" attitude?
Aww, c'mon, really??
Why even post if you've got THAT attitude?
31 Aug 19
@bigdoggproblem saidI thought it interesting.
Why do you say that?
And, perhaps, more importantly, why does the answer to that question matter?
31 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidGod and his host of angels continue to build, reorganise, destroy galaxies all over the universe. Nobody knows the extent of the universe. The universe is the domain of God and if God is eternal then the universe must also be eternal.
Is the universe we live in eternal in size or scope?
I say, no.
31 Aug 19
@bigdoggproblem saidWithout ever really giving it a lot of thought, I think I always considered it eternal in size. God creating it could have been endless or not; it would have been whatever He wanted. The Big Bang with Einstein, Hubble, and Hawking I have to conclude it started expanding at the start; therefore, it had to have a leading edge of its expansion. Since it has a leading-edge, it is finite not eternal no matter how large it is; it isn't endless. In comparison to God, it is not much different than us, the eternal one looking at something else finite. So God managing it no longer looks to me anyway as tremendously difficult thing for God to do, in addition to that looking at any part of it with interest, not something that can be judged by size within the universe either.
Why do you say that?
And, perhaps, more importantly, why does the answer to that question matter?
Like a said just a thought.
31 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidThe texts in the bible which relate to the universe/heavens clearly indicate that it is finite.
Without ever really giving it a lot of thought, I think I always considered it eternal in size. God creating it could have been endless or not; it would have been whatever He wanted. The Big Bang with Einstein, Hubble, and Hawking I have to conclude it started expanding at the start; therefore, it had to have a leading edge of its expansion. Since it has a leading-edge, it i ...[text shortened]... not something that can be judged by size within the universe either.
Like a said just a thought.
For a start it was created and therefore has a beginning. If it has a beginning it has an end.
Secondly there is prophetic text that the heavens will be rolled up like a carpet.
Thirdly there will be a new heaven and a new earth.
Pretty conclusive.
01 Sep 19
@bigdoggproblem saidLOL.
Why do you say that?
And, perhaps, more importantly, why does the answer to that question matter?
Cracking jokes now are we?
01 Sep 19
@whodey saidWhat is gained by conjuring up a 'religious' answer - i.e. a superstition-based answer - to a scientific question? What traction does such an "answer" have beyond the traction it has with people who agree with it?
They asked what the folks in the religious forums say.
