1. SubscriberBigDoggProblem
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    10 Oct '14 02:13
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
  2. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    10 Oct '14 12:04
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    An abiding faith in Jesus Christ; an inner peace and tranquility of soul and an eternal future with Him (as well as the hostility of unbelievers here who are trying to escape the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible).
  3. SubscriberFMF
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    10 Oct '14 12:42
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    An abiding faith in Jesus Christ; an inner peace and tranquility of soul and an eternal future with Him (as well as the hostility of unbelievers here who are trying to escape the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible).
    "...the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible".

    You'll have met many people, no doubt, who have been driven to take refuge in religion for the self same reasons.
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    10 Oct '14 14:22
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    Christ.
    Christ!
    Christ !!
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    10 Oct '14 16:08
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    Calm and contentment, inner peace and tranquility of 'soul', all without any recourse to or reliance on mythical beings.
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    10 Oct '14 20:19
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Calm and contentment, inner peace and tranquility of 'soul', all without any recourse to or reliance on mythical beings.
    You inform us -

    I play chess for fun, but I do generally find it to be more fun if I don't lose.


    Doesn't your calm and contentment and inner peace and tranquility of soul render losing this "game", even a somewhat mythically based game, completely not important ?

    Does calm tranquility of soul leave you when the other guy checkmates you ? Its just a game.
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    10 Oct '14 23:53
    Originally posted by sonship
    You inform us -

    I play chess for fun, but I do generally find it to be more fun if I don't lose.


    Doesn't your calm and contentment and inner peace and tranquility of soul render losing this "game", even a somewhat mythically based game, completely not important ?

    Does calm tranquility of soul leave you when the other guy checkmates you ? Its just a game.
    Nope, I'm absolutely fine losing a game of chess, doesn't bother me in the slightest. Doesn't ruffle my tranquility even a smidgeon. Does that make the game unimportant? In a way, I suppose it does, but I still enjoy playing. I am amused that you imagine me losing my cool over a game of chess.
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    12 Oct '14 00:34
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    "I got the music in me !! "
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    12 Oct '14 05:53
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    I got my peeps.
  10. Standard memberCalJust
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    12 Oct '14 07:39
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    This is actually a very profound question, because NOW is all we've got, and ever will get.

    Many books have been written about it, most popular hof which probably Ekhardt Tolle' "The Power of Now", and Richard Rohr "The Naked Now".

    That is my current journey, trying to practice that - to absolutely LIVE in each moment, to fully SENSE my current emotion, even at a Checkmate!

    My growth is incremental, but measurable....

    Would be nice if somebody would pick up this topic and engage meaningfully, without cliches.
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    12 Oct '14 07:531 edit
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    An abiding inner peace and tranquility, the remembrance of past lives completed, and the conviction that if I get it right this time round, I won't have to come back to complete anything else.
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    12 Oct '14 17:491 edit
    Originally posted by CalJust
    This is actually a very profound question, because NOW is all we've got, and ever will get.

    Many books have been written about it, most popular hof which probably Ekhardt Tolle' "The Power of Now", and Richard Rohr "The Naked Now".

    That is my current journey, trying to practice that - to absolutely LIVE in each moment, to fully SENSE my current emotion ...[text shortened]...

    Would be nice if somebody would pick up this topic and engage meaningfully, without cliches.
    "This one...a long time have I watched. All his life, as he - looked away - to the future, to the horizon; Never his mind on where he was - What he was doing". -Yoda


    Lately I have caught myself doing just this a lot. Too often. So obsessed with what may come that I forget to immerse myself in the moment. I wonder how many enriching experiences have passed me by because of this obsession with the future.
  13. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    12 Oct '14 19:301 edit
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Not eventually. Now.

    What have you got right now?
    BDP, I've also a compassion for all family members, offline and online friends who are concerned with their eternal destinies.
  14. Standard memberhakima
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    13 Oct '14 05:25
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    "This one...a long time have I watched. All his life, as he - looked away - to the future, to the horizon; Never his mind on where he was - What he was doing". -Yoda


    Lately I have caught myself doing just this a lot. Too often. So obsessed with what may come that I forget to immerse myself in the moment. I wonder how many enriching experiences have passed me by because of this obsession with the future.
    Is is possible that the lesson of the burning bush...ie, "God" identifying as I AM was a lesson to Moses that what was most expedient at the time was exactly right in front of him in "real" time?

    I get that same impression when I read the account of Jesus telling Martha that "one thing is needful" (as opposed to multi-tasking to get everything all done)...focus...essentially on the breath in the here and now...simple awareness in the moment, which paradoxically is how one gets from "here to there."

    Peace!
  15. SubscriberBigDoggProblem
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    14 Oct '14 15:46
    Originally posted by hakima
    Is is possible that the lesson of the burning bush...ie, "God" identifying as I AM was a lesson to Moses that what was most expedient at the time was exactly right in front of him in "real" time?

    I get that same impression when I read the account of Jesus telling Martha that "one thing is needful" (as opposed to multi-tasking to get everything all done)... ...[text shortened]... ple awareness in the moment, which paradoxically is how one gets from "here to there."

    Peace!
    Yes - sort of a Zen thing, perhaps?

    "To get where you want to go, forget about where you want to go, and focus on taking a step instead."
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