Spirituality
10 Oct 14
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemAn abiding faith in Jesus Christ; an inner peace and tranquility of soul and an eternal future with Him (as well as the hostility of unbelievers here who are trying to escape the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible).
Not eventually. Now.
What have you got right now?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"...the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible".
An abiding faith in Jesus Christ; an inner peace and tranquility of soul and an eternal future with Him (as well as the hostility of unbelievers here who are trying to escape the futility and despair of life which is otherwise ultimately incomprehensible).
You'll have met many people, no doubt, who have been driven to take refuge in religion for the self same reasons.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatYou inform us -
Calm and contentment, inner peace and tranquility of 'soul', all without any recourse to or reliance on mythical beings.
I play chess for fun, but I do generally find it to be more fun if I don't lose.
Doesn't your calm and contentment and inner peace and tranquility of soul render losing this "game", even a somewhat mythically based game, completely not important ?
Does calm tranquility of soul leave you when the other guy checkmates you ? Its just a game.
Originally posted by sonshipNope, I'm absolutely fine losing a game of chess, doesn't bother me in the slightest. Doesn't ruffle my tranquility even a smidgeon. Does that make the game unimportant? In a way, I suppose it does, but I still enjoy playing. I am amused that you imagine me losing my cool over a game of chess.
You inform us -
I play chess for fun, but I do generally find it to be more fun if I don't lose.
Doesn't your calm and contentment and inner peace and tranquility of soul render losing this "game", even a somewhat mythically based game, completely not important ?
Does calm tranquility of soul leave you when the other guy checkmates you ? Its just a game.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemThis is actually a very profound question, because NOW is all we've got, and ever will get.
Not eventually. Now.
What have you got right now?
Many books have been written about it, most popular hof which probably Ekhardt Tolle' "The Power of Now", and Richard Rohr "The Naked Now".
That is my current journey, trying to practice that - to absolutely LIVE in each moment, to fully SENSE my current emotion, even at a Checkmate!
My growth is incremental, but measurable....
Would be nice if somebody would pick up this topic and engage meaningfully, without cliches.
Originally posted by CalJust
This is actually a very profound question, because NOW is all we've got, and ever will get.
Many books have been written about it, most popular hof which probably Ekhardt Tolle' "The Power of Now", and Richard Rohr "The Naked Now".
That is my current journey, trying to practice that - to absolutely LIVE in each moment, to fully SENSE my current emotion ...[text shortened]...
Would be nice if somebody would pick up this topic and engage meaningfully, without cliches.
"This one...a long time have I watched. All his life, as he - looked away - to the future, to the horizon; Never his mind on where he was - What he was doing". -Yoda
Lately I have caught myself doing just this a lot. Too often. So obsessed with what may come that I forget to immerse myself in the moment. I wonder how many enriching experiences have passed me by because of this obsession with the future.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemIs is possible that the lesson of the burning bush...ie, "God" identifying as I AM was a lesson to Moses that what was most expedient at the time was exactly right in front of him in "real" time?"This one...a long time have I watched. All his life, as he - looked away - to the future, to the horizon; Never his mind on where he was - What he was doing". -Yoda
Lately I have caught myself doing just this a lot. Too often. So obsessed with what may come that I forget to immerse myself in the moment. I wonder how many enriching experiences have passed me by because of this obsession with the future.
I get that same impression when I read the account of Jesus telling Martha that "one thing is needful" (as opposed to multi-tasking to get everything all done)...focus...essentially on the breath in the here and now...simple awareness in the moment, which paradoxically is how one gets from "here to there."
Peace!
Originally posted by hakimaYes - sort of a Zen thing, perhaps?
Is is possible that the lesson of the burning bush...ie, "God" identifying as I AM was a lesson to Moses that what was most expedient at the time was exactly right in front of him in "real" time?
I get that same impression when I read the account of Jesus telling Martha that "one thing is needful" (as opposed to multi-tasking to get everything all done)... ...[text shortened]... ple awareness in the moment, which paradoxically is how one gets from "here to there."
Peace!
"To get where you want to go, forget about where you want to go, and focus on taking a step instead."