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Originally posted by Proper KnobThis is a correction that could be accepted by a person who wanted to understand.
I am neither 'against God' nor 'against the concept of God'.
I have no idea why it appears here. 🙂
Originally posted by Shallow BlueNo, and why do we keep having to debunk this?
No, agnosticism is a null position. Atheism is an intentional minus position.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueNo. Atheism is a lack of belief. It is doing/thinking nothing. it is the default position - it is the position of the new-born child. It is a lack of belief in a deity.
No, agnosticism is a null position. Atheism is an intentional minus position.
Originally posted by OdBodWhat crap!
It requires courage to be an Atheist. To accept that you will end, runs contrary to all your self preservation and survival instincts. To have to accept that you will not see your loved ones again is heartbreaking. Religious people are able to side step these hard truths, and that makes religion an easier option. I would also extend this thinking to martyrdom, ...[text shortened]... r his belief than anybody. How does this compare to a simple man or woman dying to save another?
Originally posted by KellyJayI am sorry KellyJay, but I found your opening comments a little confusing in relation to the OP. That said, you seem to think that Atheists have nothing to guide them, I disagree. We all live in the same world and share limited resources, it is in everybody's interest to develop a society which is fair and sustainable. Religion divides people , creates extremists with fixed uncompromising views capable of atrocities , validated by perceived divine authority . I would also suggest that as an Atheist I believe this is the only life we have, and that this makes all life rare and precious, no second chances.
What crap!
You don't have a choice!
You are going to end in this life if you like it or not, believing in what comes
next does not change squat with respect to you leaving this life that is
going to happen!
Where courage comes in where those beliefs matter in the here and now!
Will you not act out in hate when everyone around you calls on you too
o ...[text shortened]... ne. When we see
it we are glad, so saving another is a good thing. living for others is better.
Originally posted by OdBodI believe Atheist are their own guildes, they pick and choose, they don't like
I am sorry KellyJay, but I found your opening comments a little confusing in relation to the OP. That said, you seem to think that Atheists have nothing to guide them, I disagree. We all live in the same world and share limited resources, it is in everybody's interest to develop a society which is fair and sustainable. Religion divides people , creates extremi ...[text shortened]... his is the only life we have, and that this makes all life rare and precious, no second chances.
Originally posted by OdBodA certain kind of theism and a certain kind of atheism sit in opposition to one another. At a minimum they belittle each other, saying the other is of no value, and a form of denial. Beyond this, they each allow, justify or even demand cruelty toward the other, although it requires organization to put pogroms in place; using religious or irreligious, e.g. communist hierarchy to pull it off. We see that happening all over the world.
It requires courage to be an Atheist. To accept that you will end, runs contrary to all your self preservation and survival instincts. To have to accept that you will not see your loved ones again is heartbreaking. Religious people are able to side step these hard truths, and that makes religion an easier option. I would also extend this thinking to martyrdom, ...[text shortened]... r his belief than anybody. How does this compare to a simple man or woman dying to save another?
Originally posted by OdBod
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It requires courage to be an Atheist. To accept that you will end, runs contrary to all your self preservation and survival instincts. To have to accept that you will not see your loved ones again is heartbreaking. Religious people are able to side step these hard truths,
Originally posted by sonshipWhat truths are most hard to take is going to depend on the individual.It requires courage to be an Atheist. To accept that you will end, runs contrary to all your self preservation and survival instincts. To have to accept that you will not see your loved ones again is heartbreaking. Religious people are able to side step these hard truths,
Name two of your top most hard truths that I as a Christian "side ...[text shortened]... ur two top examples - "hard truths" that I as a believer in Jesus Christ "side step."
Thanks
Originally posted by sonshipSorry sonship, I didn't understand your second paragraph in the context of your complete post, that said , I would stand by my OP.It requires courage to be an Atheist. To accept that you will end, runs contrary to all your self preservation and survival instincts. To have to accept that you will not see your loved ones again is heartbreaking. Religious people are able to side step these hard truths,
Name two of your top most hard truths that I as a Christian "side ...[text shortened]... ur two top examples - "hard truths" that I as a believer in Jesus Christ "side step."
Thanks