Originally posted by Suzianne
Christians often "pester" the people who are important to them about accepting Jesus as their Savior because they love these people and want to see them have eternal life also. They believe this life is only a fraction of what is meant by "eternal life", and what kind of friend would they be to these people if they did not at least try to sway them to beli ...[text shortened]... on't respect their views. How can you seriously expect them to respect yours?
you're misquoting me.
"believe in whatever you want, however ridiculous in the eyes of some people"
i didn't call christianity 'ridiculous' here, the same could be said about what atheists believe. i do think parts of it are ridiculous but that's not what i was saying here.
"sad" this is what i was calling said, someone of a certain faith totally squashing someones impressive accomplishments in life as
"all he has done is for nothing if he never accepts Jesus (Yahshua) as his lord and savior."
this view is sad in my eyes. the fact that you (not you, you) can call someones life meaningless, regardless of what they have achieved just because they lack a certain faith is pathetic. there's one thing 'wanting someone to have eternal life' but this is just an attack on someone solely for their lack of belief, there's no conversion attempt here. this is also where the 'joke' and 'not serious' quotes came from.
as for "stories"... some stories are true, some are false. the bible is full of stories. you might think most are true, i might think most are false, all of them are stories though.
i'm not asking christans to 'stop bothering me' here, i've come to realize that that isn't possible, that's not what this thread is about. if they really are trying to do as you say and show me the enlightenment of eternal life i can understand that, if that's what they believe and are trying to stare, great. i'm not going to change my views but i've stopped blaming them for trying.
this thread was about something else. mainly this quote
"all he has done is for nothing if he never accepts Jesus (Yahshua) as his lord and savior."
it's the clearest anyone has ever put it for me that i can remember and i'm going to post a quote of my post in response -
"it really is quite sad if you think about it, not what people believe. believe in whatever you want, however ridiculous in the eyes of some people for all i care just don't think you're anymore of a person for believing in these things. if we all live our lives in peace and harmony does it really matter if one person believes in god and all of his stories and other does not? judging perfectly nice people who have conducted themselves gracefully throughout their lives and achieved many impressive accomplishments solely on the fact that they in some peoples eyes lack or have a certain belief system is ridiculous."
understand what i was saying now? i'm not attacking your religion, i'm attacking hopefully a minority of people within christianity and other religions who seem to believe they're better than most people just for believing in something that the others do not.
if there is a god and there is an eternal afterlife or reincarnation, or whatever, i'd hope that people will be judged on what they have achieved, how they respected others and conducted themselves while they were here on earth, not if they believed in something or not.