Originally posted by Rajk999
LOL ... are you trying to score points with Pritybetta?
Maybe you really believe that she can tell who is saved and who is not?
You people are confused.
I suggest you start listening to the Words of Jesus.
His words have the power of salvation.
His words are simple and easy to understand.
All this convoluted foolishness about being saved as soon as ple like you that mislead the gullible and the weak minded. Good Luck to you. Discussion over.
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LOL ... are you trying to score points with Pritybetta?
Maybe you really believe that she can tell who is saved and who is not?
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Pritybetta is not the point.
Your problem is not even in the Bible. It is in the way you think about what you read. You're myopic and cannot see things from more than one angle at a time.
You were able to flesh out the word "regeneration" an show an alternative meaning. It is hypocritical of you that you cannot do the same with the words
"saved" or
"salvation"
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You people are confused.
I suggest you start listening to the Words of Jesus.
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The last heretica poster (ToO) who suggested that didn't even believe that Jesus spoke in the book of
Acts.
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His words have the power of salvation.
His words are simple and easy to understand.
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You are quite foolish not to realize that some people pioneered the exprience of His teachings and that we ought to listen to them as well.
Besides, you appeal for us to listen to Jesus is not genuine.
YOU won't listen to Jesus in
John 8:58. So your charge for us to do so is hollow and hypocritical.
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All this convoluted foolishness.....
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You mean your convoluted excuses about not listening to Jesus in
John 8:58 ??
Give it up.
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about being saved as soon as you are born again and cannot lose your salvation and its guaranteed is unscriptural manmade doctrines designed to get more people in the church, so that the greedy pastors can buy their big houses and live extravagantly.
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Now you are ADDING your own false accusations against me.
Where I meet we do not even have a pastoral system. Not all Christians meet in a clergy/laity arrangement.
Go look up the word
"salvation" in your concordance and see in how many different ways it is used.
I am really not impressed with people like you who claim to be for the words of Jesus while rejecting His apostles through whom
HIS WORDS in came the first place.
The Discussion never got started because of your myopic and phony attitude towards rejecting the words of Jesus when they do not agree with your false doctrine.
You also avoid the truth by complaining about having to read too much.