1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    04 Nov '11 22:571 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    [b]The United States of America was established by God to be a Christian nation.

    How is it possible for one man to come out with such nonsense?

    The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, Creator, Divine, and God" are not mentioned in your Constitution-- not even once.

    Even i as an Englishman know that. How can you be so blind?[/b]
    Oh, it is not just me, many men believe such nonsense, as you call it.

    P.S. I think you may be the one that is blind. Look again and see if you
    do not see "Lord" somewhere.
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    04 Nov '11 23:08
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Oh, it is not just me, many men believe such nonsense, as you call it.

    P.S. I think you may be the one that is blind. Look again and see if you
    do not see "Lord" somewhere.
    Well I'll have to say your one of a kind my friend. I'm actually seeing how far out there some get and I have to say it's amazing.
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    04 Nov '11 23:24
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This USA was establised by who? Are you really that far out there? All I can say if this is the best god can do then we're all in trouble.
    This country's founding fathers knew God had a hand in it, for did not
    they refer to the providence of God. That is with a big "G".
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    04 Nov '11 23:29
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    No.
    you were calling the opinion of "Encyclopedia Canadiana " propaganda.

    I was telling you that as Encyclopedia Canadiana had no vested interest in the side for or against JWs then its text could not be called propaganda.

    G75 used a quote from that tome to back-up an argument. That is called debating a point it is not propaganda.


    edit: I am NOT on the side of JWs as you well know, but I do respect the truth.
    It does not matter where he gets his propaganda, it is used as propaganda.
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    05 Nov '11 00:59
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    This country's founding fathers knew God had a hand in it, for did not
    they refer to the providence of God. That is with a big "G".
    Ok if your sooooooooo sure God had a hand in forming this great country, prove it.
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    05 Nov '11 05:20
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Ok if your sooooooooo sure God had a hand in forming this great country, prove it.
    I did on an earlier thread. Look it up.
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    05 Nov '11 08:001 edit
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Ok if your sooooooooo sure God had a hand in forming this great country, prove it.
    http://www.redcoat.me.uk/Rev-War.htm

    details what actually happened. No mention of God.
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    05 Nov '11 08:13
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    http://www.redcoat.me.uk/Rev-War.htm

    details what actually happened. No mention of God.
    Propaganda from the British long after the facts.
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    05 Nov '11 08:42
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Propaganda from the British long after the facts.
    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say.
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    05 Nov '11 10:30
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Oh, it is not just me, many men believe such nonsense, as you call it.

    P.S. I think you may be the one that is blind. Look again and see if you
    do not see "Lord" somewhere.
    Oh, it is not just me, many men believe such nonsense, as you call it.

    What exactly does that prove, that there are lots of thicko's in the US like yourself? Your argument is simply ad populum. It's a logical fallacy, just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true. To paraphrase Bertrand Russel -

    If fifty million people believe a stupid idea, it's still a stupid idea.
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    05 Nov '11 13:36
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say.
    Anyone reading the first couple of paragraphs should be able to see that
    this is BS from the losers point of view and nothing but nonsense. It
    represents a distorted view of history in which the fight for liberty had
    nothing to do with the war.
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    05 Nov '11 13:421 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    [b]Oh, it is not just me, many men believe such nonsense, as you call it.

    What exactly does that prove, that there are lots of thicko's in the US like yourself? Your argument is simply ad populum. It's a logical fallacy, just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true. To paraphrase Bertrand Russel -

    If fifty million people believe a stupid idea, it's still a stupid idea.[/b]
    Only those British thickos who had the courage and sense came over here
    to start a new and freer life. That is why America is home of the free and
    the brave.

    P.S. "I am looking forward very much to getting back to Cambridge, and
    being able to say what I think and not to mean what I say: two things which
    at home are impossible. Cambridge is one of the few places where one can
    talk unlimited nonsense and generalities without anyone pulling one up or
    confronting one with them when one says just the opposite the next day."
    - Bertrand Russel -
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    05 Nov '11 14:081 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Anyone reading the first couple of paragraphs should be able to see that
    this is BS from the losers point of view and nothing but nonsense. It
    represents a distorted view of history in which the fight for liberty had
    nothing to do with the war.
    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say and you still have not said.
    Your opinion is not a refutation of any facts and has no value in the context. We shall
    ask you again, although i doubt it shall do any good.

    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say.
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    05 Nov '11 14:26
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Only those British thickos who had the courage and sense came over here
    to start a new and freer life. That is why America is home of the free and
    the brave.

    P.S. "I am looking forward very much to getting back to Cambridge, and
    being able to say what I think and not to mean what I say: two things which
    at home are impossible. Cambridge is one of th ...[text shortened]... confronting one with them when one says just the opposite the next day."
    - Bertrand Russel -
    I'm not sure what any of that has do with what we were discussing. America was not founded to be a Christian nation, you're only response to my rebuttal was 'well, that's what a lot of people here believe'.
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    05 Nov '11 14:29
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say and you still have not said.
    Your opinion is not a refutation of any facts and has no value in the context. We shall
    ask you again, although i doubt it shall do any good.

    which one of those facts are you disputing, you did not say.
    There are many, of which the following from the first paragraph is an
    example:

    The Declaration of Independence contains nonsense, fear-mongering, lies
    and baseless speculation.
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