Spirituality
24 Dec 17
Jeremiah 10New International Version (NIV)
God and Idols
1Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel.
2 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”
Happy heathen seasonal festival 🙂
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25 Dec 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterMerry Christmas, no wine but brown ale instead.
Happy Christmas one and all!
The wife and I are enjoying a seasonal festive day of wine, food and good company 🙂
I sincerely hope you are too...
25 Dec 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerBrown ale eh, a different choice but everyone to their own taste.
Merry Christmas, no wine but brown ale instead.
Happy Christmas
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25 Dec 17
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Originally posted by @divegeesterCorrection it’s dry stout. Thanks to my Irish friends there is no looking back now.
Brown ale eh, a different choice but everyone to their own taste.
Happy Christmas
26 Dec 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterI go to Christmas mass and I meditate on what Christians believe about Jesus [i.e. what I used to believe too]. I wouldn't call that 'celebrating', but it does involve me perceiving it as a "real religious festival".
Do any Christians here celebrate Christmas as a “real” religious festival?
26 Dec 17
Originally posted by @fmfYes it is certainly real to committed catholics and I can see how the festival could have efficacy in focusing the mind on Christian values (such as they are) for anyone who sees the good that is in the religion. I’m also wondering how any of the more evangelical Christians here perceive Christmas.
I go to Christmas mass and I meditate on what Christians believe about Jesus [i.e. what I used to believe too]. I wouldn't call that 'celebrating', but it does involve me perceiving it as a "real religious festival".
Originally posted by @divegeesterI do not. Based on the story of Jesus' birth, he was not born in winter.
Do any Christians here celebrate Christmas as a “real” religious festival?
Modern liberal ideology dictates that this is not the christmas season, but the holiday season.
We must also include Kwanzaa as well as Festivus.
Originally posted by @eladarPlease stop bloviating your opinions of what liberals think. You nearly always get it wrong, just as whodey does. It's actually nearly the same as what conservatives think, only minus the self-serving arrogance and hypocrisy and hate and lies.
I do not. Based on the story of Jesus' birth, he was not born in winter.
Modern liberal ideology dictates that this is not the christmas season, but the holiday season.
We must also include Kwanzaa as well as Festivus.
29 Dec 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterMy overwhelming feeling about Christmas is that Jesus' birth is completely downplayed in scripture, especially when compared to the importance of his death and resurrection. And that this is obviously purposeful and meaningful. We've allowed it to be blown up out of all proportion to its significance so that we might use God to fill our pockets with gold. We, as a society, have bastardized his birth into just another way to make money, and we are no better than the moneychangers.
Yes it is certainly real to committed catholics and I can see how the festival could have efficacy in focusing the mind on Christian values (such as they are) for anyone who sees the good that is in the religion. I’m also wondering how any of the more evangelical Christians here perceive Christmas.
29 Dec 17
Originally posted by @suzianneI think the generally society these days doesn’t give Jesus much of a thought at Christmas. No matter what date the actual birth was I don’t think it matters at all, it’s just corporate religion making traditions and festivals to keep the sheeple entranced.
My overwhelming feeling about Christmas is that Jesus' birth is completely downplayed in scripture, especially when compared to the importance of his death and resurrection. And that this is obviously purposeful and meaningful. We've allowed it to be blown up out of all proportion to its significance so that we might use God to fill our pockets with gold ...[text shortened]... ized his birth into just another way to make money, and we are no better than the moneychangers.
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29 Dec 17
Originally posted by @suzianneDownplayed?
My overwhelming feeling about Christmas is that Jesus' birth is completely downplayed in scripture, especially when compared to the importance of his death and resurrection. And that this is obviously purposeful and meaningful. We've allowed it to be blown up out of all proportion to its significance so that we might use God to fill our pockets with gold ...[text shortened]... ized his birth into just another way to make money, and we are no better than the moneychangers.
Surely the birth of Jesus was a massively significant event in scripture, so much so, it was even foretold by preceding prophets?
Colossians 1:15–16 even looks upon his birth as the model for all creation:
'He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.'
Originally posted by @fmfInteresting.
I go to Christmas mass and I meditate on what Christians believe about Jesus [i.e. what I used to believe too]. I wouldn't call that 'celebrating', but it does involve me perceiving it as a "real religious festival".
On Christmas I meditate on what Marx and Darwin had to say regarding the virtues of atheism.
Naturally, I don't believe either.
Atheists really should have a holiday to celebrate skepticism and cynicism and eventual mortal death for all eternity. 😛
29 Dec 17
Originally posted by @whodeyThey have Kwanzaa.
Interesting.
On Christmas I meditate on what Marx and Darwin had to say regarding the virtues of atheism.
Naturally, I don't believe either.
Atheists really should have a holiday to celebrate skepticism and cynicism and eventual mortal death for all eternity. 😛