1. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    19 Aug '05 11:35
    Originally posted by checkbaitor
    [b]The words " thou shallt not kill" are more accurately translated " thou shallt not murder" ...there is a big difference.b]
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  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    19 Aug '05 12:15
    Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowed
    That's a fact, the neo-con capitalist greedy warmongering religious-right of America are not true Christians, they betray the faith...
    Who are 'true Christians' in your opinion? I guess we know who you
    think are not.
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    19 Aug '05 12:161 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Yes. It has always amused me that so many things in the bible like

    - thou shallt not kill and
    - turn the other cheek

    Are so blatantly disregarded by the most faithful of Christians in the US, yet the non-religious types (the hippies and the socialists) do seem to follow what the bible says.

    How bloody ironic is that?
    Have you met the most faithful of Christians in the US to make such
    a claim, or are you just letting your assumptions run down people
    you have no idea what they are like in real life?
    Kelly
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    19 Aug '05 12:17
    Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowed
    Indeed, such irony, and besides, Jesus could be considered a tree hugger too, somewhere he says he loves "all living things", and BTW, trees are alive, so you are a heathen...
    Where did he say that?
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    19 Aug '05 12:20
    Originally posted by malinga
    to kill a man and to murder a man are the very same thing to the dead man
    They die true when one is killed or murdered, but murder is not the
    same thing as just killing. The words carry different meanings they
    are not the same thing.
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    19 Aug '05 15:58
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    They die true when one is killed or murdered, but murder is not the
    same thing as just killing. The words carry different meanings they
    are not the same thing.
    Indeed, they mean different things. But the word that ended up in the English translation is "kill." Why is that?
    Do we need to look at the original texts of the Bible and ignore the modern translations? If so, there are a lot of things that need to change... For example, many of the Bible references that are against "homosexuals" utilize a word that referred specifically to male prostitutes used in religious ceremonies.
  7. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    19 Aug '05 17:34
    Originally posted by echecero
    Do we need to look at the original texts of the Bible and ignore the modern translations? If so, there are a lot of things that need to change... For example, many of the Bible references that are against "homosexuals" utilize a word that referred specifically to male prostitutes used in religious ceremonies.
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    19 Aug '05 17:59
    Murdering somebody in cold blood can be considered different to killing somebody in self-defence.
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    19 Aug '05 18:10
    Originally posted by echecero
    Indeed, they mean different things. But the word that ended up in the English translation is "kill." Why is that?
    Do we need to look at the original texts of the Bible and ignore the modern translations? If so, there are a lot of things that need to change... For example, many of the Bible references that are against "homosexuals" utilize a word that referred specifically to male prostitutes used in religious ceremonies.
    Specifics, please.

    Thanks,

    LH
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    19 Aug '05 18:37
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Specifics, please.

    Thanks,

    LH
    It took me all of 30 seconds to find this link. It's packed with specifics. Enjoy the soothing pink font.

    http://www.geocities.com/rainbowchristian1225/GENESIS.html
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    19 Aug '05 18:42
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    It took me all of 30 seconds to find this link. It's packed with specifics. Enjoy the soothing pink font.

    http://www.geocities.com/rainbowchristian1225/GENESIS.html
    I like pink - but not necessarily on web-pages! LOL

    Thanks for the link - enjoyed the article.
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