John 5:30

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
wow pure shamanism.

"And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:" -- Matthew 13:14

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
these things are not explicitly stated in the text of leviticus and are probably extra Biblical, I will need to research the text to find out.

Speaking of wimpy and weak, are you one of these who worships the Bible AS God, instead of the "Word of God"? Why be so arrogant to assume that the entire wisdom of God is bound up in the Bible? God doesn't tell us everything; he knows we're intelligent, he leaves us things to figure out on our own, if our hearts lean to him.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Speaking of wimpy and weak, are you one of these who worships the Bible AS God, instead of the "Word of God"? Why be so arrogant to assume that the entire wisdom of God is bound up in the Bible? God doesn't tell us everything; he knows we're intelligent, he leaves us things to figure out on our own, if our hearts lean to him.

oh dear, have you never read,

Trust in Jehovah with all your heart,
And do not rely on your own understanding. - Proverbs 3:5

As for me I worship the father, exclusively.

Originally posted by Suzianne
"And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:" -- Matthew 13:14

ye? is this 1655?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
[b]By myself I [Jesus] can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

What does this mean?[/b]

It means that as a mere man that Jesus can do no more than any other man, but as the one sent by God He can do all things. The apostle Paul meant basically the same thing when he said,

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

(Philippians 4:13 KJV)

HalleluYaHshua ! Praise the LORD !

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
It could perhaps be argued that as Jesus was subject to the limitations of being a man, he had to subject himself before the Father in order to sacrifice himself for the sins of mankind.

'Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. (Phil.2)

Good thinking.

See how well the Ghost is reasoning "with God" as part of the process?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
[b]By myself I [Jesus] can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

What does this mean?[/b]

Jesus' every word and deed was done as an act of obedience to His Father. That's what it means.

The Son, as a member of the Godhead, set aside the glory He shared with God to become as one of us, and that's how He lived, as an ordinary man. The difference is is that Jesus was without sin and obeyed God to the death.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
oh dear, have you never read,

Trust in Jehovah with all your heart,
And do not rely on your own understanding. - Proverbs 3:5

As for me I worship the father, exclusively.

"As for me I worship the father, exclusively."

Right! And one day you will bow the knee and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord!

Am I not right robbie?