1. Donationkirksey957
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    05 Jul '08 22:17
    Why, then, does God need man? He needs humankind, says Jung, in order
    to achieve a greater consciousness, a more precise rendering of himself to himself.
    Yet he is ambivalent about this, abandoning his faithful servant, Job, to evil. This
    poor victim of a divine plot is thereby secretly lifted up to a superior knowledge
    which God himself does not possess, namely his own antinomy. Yet we discover
    that Job is an outward occasion for an inward dialectic in God himself (para. 587).
    It is as if God projects his skepticism on Job and the latter is challenged as though
    he, himself, were a god!

    This was written by Martin Spiegleman about Carl Jung's "Answer to Job" . It is a small excerpt but full of ideas to comment on.
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    05 Jul '08 22:30
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Why, then, does God need man? He needs humankind, says Jung, in order
    to achieve a greater consciousness, a more precise rendering of himself to himself.
    Yet he is ambivalent about this, abandoning his faithful servant, Job, to evil. This
    poor victim of a divine plot is thereby secretly lifted up to a superior knowledge
    which God himself does not poss ...[text shortened]... n about Carl Jung's "Answer to Job" . It is a small excerpt but full of ideas to comment on.
    Job 1:6-12

    6 Now it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan also came among them.

    7 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered Jehovah, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

    8 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job? for there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and turneth away from evil.

    9 Then Satan answered Jehovah, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

    10 Hast not thou made a hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath, on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

    11 But put forth thy hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will renounce thee to thy face.

    12 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thy hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of Jehovah.
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    06 Jul '08 13:09
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Why, then, does God need man? He needs humankind, says Jung, in order
    to achieve a greater consciousness, a more precise rendering of himself to himself.
    Yet he is ambivalent about this, abandoning his faithful servant, Job, to evil. This
    poor victim of a divine plot is thereby secretly lifted up to a superior knowledge
    which God himself does not poss ...[text shortened]... n about Carl Jung's "Answer to Job" . It is a small excerpt but full of ideas to comment on.
    Do you believe Carl Jung knew God?
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    06 Jul '08 15:20
    Jung sounds like a foolish person.
  5. Donationkirksey957
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    06 Jul '08 17:08
    Originally posted by josephw
    Do you believe Carl Jung knew God?
    In a avery famous interview , he was asked if he believed in God. He responded that he "knew God."
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