01 May 22
@fmf saidOff the top of my head, justice has to do with the whole; if this happens to protect the whole, something must be done to correct or satisfy justice, or the whole is not living on a level playing field, while revenge is self-serving.
Justice and Revenge
What’s the difference between them?
01 May 22
@fmf saidIn my thinking “Justice” is the outcome of the application of a balanced, fair-minded, socially accepted and equitable package of punitive options which are applied through the consideration of facts and mitigating circumstances. When due process is followed this “justice” will be appropriate to the offence.
Justice and Revenge
What’s the difference between them?
“Revenge” or vengeance is indiscriminate, delivered in anger or wrath, unbalanced, disproportionate to the offence, not socially acceptable and often results in a crime being committed.
Just my initial thoughts.
01 May 22
@divegeester saidI think "revenge" CAN be all these things, certainly. But I'm not convinced the definition of "revenge", in and of itself, carries all this badness.
“Revenge” or vengeance is indiscriminate, delivered in anger or wrath, unbalanced, disproportionate to the offence, not socially acceptable and often results in a crime being committed.
Just my initial thoughts.
01 May 22
@fmf saidAgreed, revenge can be carried out proportionally I suppose. The problem is that it comes from a place of negative emotional energy which is likely to be unfettered by rational thinking.
I think "revenge" CAN be all these things, certainly. But I'm not convinced the definition of "revenge", in and of itself, carries all this badness.
01 May 22
@fmf saiddeterrence - doesn't work if the punishment is not credible
Moral rationales for PUNISHMENT:
deterrence,
incapacitation,
rehabilitation,
retribution,
restitution
incapacitation - doesn't really apply if someone is not able to re-offend
rehabilitation - doesn't apply if the punishment is permanent or fatal
retribution - doesn't deliver justice if the punishment is morally incoherent
restitution - doesn't apply if there are no victims
Mmm. All this does not bode well for the coherence and credibility of the torturer God ideology.