Originally posted by FMFHe can't site a single verse that says "Thou Shalt not have a blood transfusion" in the bible yet JW's believe that .......hummm kinda like when the JW's say the word trinity is not in the bible.......therefore it can't be true ....it just shows faulty reasoning and hypocrisy on their part or just a lack of common sense
I've read the stuff you presented about eating animal blood, pagan rites, blood sacrifices, strangling animals etc. But you haven't cited a Bible verse that prohibits blood transfusions.
Manny
PS: all of that being said I respect their right to believe whatever they like on the most basic level and if they want to believe the earth is flat then so be it
Originally posted by galveston75Blood Transfusions do have small inherent risk .....just like many medical procedures so what ? Do we abandon all medical procedures and live in the dark ages ? Or do we use the brains that God gave us ? Another funny thing is it's not like hospitals are handing out blood transfusions like candy it is acknowledged and understood that if one needs blood it's a serious issue and usually life threatening ....however do we just let people die ? Or do the right thing and help save lives and this is what Jesus wants
Geeeez. Really hard huh? Doesn't the bible say to not eat blood as in putting it into your body? So why is it so hard to understand that a blood transfusion is putting blood into your body in an even more direct and dangerous way?
Is it perhaps God knows the dangers of what one could get in putting blood into your body from another human even into yo ...[text shortened]... s that God has set out from the the bible for those who want to adhere to it's words and wisdom?
Manny
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Originally posted by menace71I also am comfortable with them believing whatever they just so happen to believe. I simply find it interesting to witness the severe intellectual and interpersonal difficulties they have discussing it with people who are unimpressed by their 'it's-the-word-of-God' claims. Having said that, if someone is known to be letting their child die unnecessarily in order to please a supernatural being that they happen to believe in, I would support the authorities taking those children away from them, at least temporarily.
...I respect their right to believe whatever they like on the most basic level and if they want to believe the earth is flat then so be it
Originally posted by menace71I think allowing a child to die in order to please (or in order not to displease) a God figure is ~ let's call a spade a spade ~ a form of human sacrifice. It is done in the hope of gaining personal salvation.
Your words then as you watch a child die..... that you had the power to save. Which is more evil? To do good (transfusion)? Or do evil let a child die because you refused to do what is right by saving the child's life? Jesus asked the pharisees a very similar question about healing on the Sabbath! Jesus healed on the Sabbath it's the same principle.
Manny
Originally posted by FMFI agree .....for the most part I can't argue that at all....I would not want to serve a supernatural being that forbid medical care or transfusion for a child or adult for that matter
I also am comfortable with them believing whatever they just so happen to believe. I simply find it interesting the difficult they have discussing it with people who are unimpressed by their 'it's-the-word-of-God' claims. Having said that, if someone is known to be letting their child die unnecessarily in order to please a supernatural being they happen to belie ...[text shortened]... in, I would support the authorities taking those children away from them, at least temporarily.
Manny
The whole point of Christianity is to be like Christ and give of ones life and blood if need be .....the opposite of what is being espoused here in this matter. I get the point that blood is the life and therefore is special. Jesus own blood made it possible for sinful man to be made free ....Irony is as afraid of blood as the JW's seem to be the bible is full of blood ...The Priest had to sprinkle blood and animals were slaughtered and the blood was drained pretty bloody affair ....the bible says without the shedding of Blood there is no remission of sins
Manny
-Removed-LOL .....with time many of these "Awakes " can be found in pdf form and people can see the contradiction for themselves and know that one is not just making this up. To think how illogical and irrational this is it's like saying 2+2=4 then saying no 2+2=5 and this is absolutely true ......then a month later stating no actually 2+2=4 and the lame argument is that as time has gone on the JW's have received more light and therefore what was written back then could be incorrect as something written later is more true. This is faulty as truth is truth and does not change with time. 2+2=4 3000 years ago just as much as it does today and other truths
Manny
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http://books.google.com/books?id=W7gr-NXx5r4C&lpg=PT17&ots=CDSRmCVhJt&dq=(WT%2C%203-1880%2C%2083)&pg=PT17#v=onepage&q=(WT,%203-1880,%2083)&f=false
not sure why this link shows up this way but it is all of the contradictions in chronological order from 1879 to 1989 ... apparently it's a book
Manny
PS: lame actually as that list should be free and it partial as to give a sample