JWs and blood transfusions

Originally posted by FMF
You don't care where the line is drawn? What about this: should "force" ~ by which I mean state intervention ~ be used to stop parents from carrying out female genital mutilation on their children?

You can move that line where ever you want it and as soon as you
draw it someone somewhere will come up with something that makes
your line look bad.
Kelly

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I'm not going to go back and shift through all of that, during that
discussion I tried to make you see what you were saying wasn't true,
and it did not sink in. Apologise or not, I don't care what you do.
Kelly

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Like I said, no matter where you draw the line someone will come up
with something that makes your line look bad.
Kelly

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Nothing obvious about it, since no one knows for sure if this treatment
or that one will always work the way they think. I don't care if they are
a cult member, that had nothing at all to do with my stance. I believe
that parents who love their kids want to best for them should have a say
on what is and is not acceptable with respect to treatment of their kids.

You take that right away, then parents have no say, it is all the state.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Like I said, no matter where you draw the line someone will come up
with something that makes your line look bad.
Kelly

where is Robbie Carrobie when you need him?

Originally posted by redbadger
where is Robbie Carrobie when you need him?

You need Robbie? Just asking! 🙂
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You can move that line where ever you want it and as soon as you
draw it someone somewhere will come up with something that makes
your line look bad.

Where should the line be? Perhaps you could give a few examples of cases where you think the state should intervene and a few examples of where it should be left to the conscience of the parents.

From what you've said in the past, you believe that JWs should be allowed to let their children to die from a treatable condition. So that's on "the conscience of the parents" side of the line for you, presumably. And I assume that you would back the state to intervene to stop female genital mutilation. So that's on "the state should intervene" side of the line, presumably.

Can you offer a couple more examples each side of the line?

Originally posted by KellyJay
You need Robbie? Just asking! 🙂
Kelly

well he is my JW guru

Originally posted by FMF
Where should the line be? Perhaps you could give a few examples of cases where you think the state should intervene and a few examples of where it should be left to the conscience of the parents.

From what you've said in the past, you believe that JWs should be allowed to let their children to die from a treatable condition. So that's on "the conscience of th ...[text shortened]... ne" side of the line, presumably.

Can you offer a couple more examples each side of the line?

We are done, never except another response from me to anything you
say again!
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
We are done, never except another response from me to anything you
say again!
Kelly

don't spit your dummy out kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
We are done, never except another response from me to anything you
say again!
Kelly

The reason I press you is because you seem to be really wishy washy on the issue of protection of children. I suspect it is some sort of political "principle" that you are adhering to because I can see no convincing moral content in any of your vague statements and evasions.

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I do not follow Jehovah Witness, I believe they are a cult! I don't care who you
are, or what you believe, if you are confronted with something that harms your
conscience, I'd not subject you to it if possible. That is the bottom line of all of
my arguments in this discussion. Now again if you want to twist that into letting
children die, just say so we can end all of our future conversations from this
point in time too.
Kelly