Kansas Republican Party Votes to ‘Affirm God’s Design for Gender’

Originally posted by @romans1009
But how does one embrace those values? It’s not by their own effort. It’s through accepting Jesus Christ into one’s heart, and, because that has to be a sincere acceptance, it cannot be compelled by the government or any other entity or person.

Such Christian values are none of the government's business. And government has no business trying to base itself on such Christian values. So much for your request on page 1.

Originally posted by @fmf
Such Christian values are none of the government's business. And government has no business trying to base itself on such Christian values. So much for your request on page 1.

Compelling someone to accept Jesus Christ by force goes against Christianity.

You’re focusing on behavior; Christianity is about a changed heart that leads to changed behavior. You have to first have the changed heart and that has to be accomplished through the voluntary acceptance of Christ - not forced by the government or anyone else.

Someone who follows the law without accepting Christ into his or her heart and without believing God raised Him from the dead is not a Christian.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Compelling someone to accept Jesus Christ by force goes against Christianity.

You’re focusing on behavior; Christianity is about a changed heart that leads to changed behavior. You have to first have the changed heart and that has to be accomplished through the voluntary acceptance of Christ - not forced by the government or anyone else.

Someone wh ...[text shortened]... ist into his or her heart and without believing God raised Him from the dead is not a Christian.

Christian values such as these you are none of the government's business. Your request on page 1 has been answered.

Originally posted by @fmf
Christian values such as these you are none of the government's business. Your request on page 1 has been answered.

I guess we just have to agree to disagree but I appreciate your input.

Thanks!

Originally posted by @romans1009
I honestly don’t see anything in the Christian religion that is antithetical to good government but I haven’t given it a lot of thought. Maybe somebody can come up with a Christian teaching or value that would not be considered good in government practice.

1Timothy 2:11-13

Originally posted by @fmf
1Timothy 2:11-13

Interesting, but I believe those verses are only referencing positions in church and matters pertaining to doctrine.

Do you think they are referencing more than that?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Interesting, but I believe those verses are only referencing positions in church and matters pertaining to doctrine.

Do you think they are referencing more than that?

I think they are "a Christian teaching or value that would not be considered good in government practice". That's what you asked for. I offered you most of Christianity's ten commandments too.

Originally posted by @fmf
I think they are "a Christian teaching or value that would not be considered good in government practice". That's what you asked for. I offered you most of Christianity's ten commandments too.

But the teaching, as I read it, pertains only to positions in church and in matters of doctrine.

Originally posted by @romans1009
But the teaching, as I read it, pertains only to positions in church and in matters of doctrine.

Well it'd make as bad a basis for government as it does for the church. You say it's a Bible teaching that only pertains to the church. Which Bible teachings pertain to government?

Originally posted by @fmf
Well it'd make as bad a basis for government as it does for the church. You say it's a Bible teaching that only pertains to the church. Which Bible teachings pertain to government?

When you say “Bible,” do you mean the New Testament? Because that is the foundational text of Christianity.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well it'd make as bad a basis for government as it does for the church. You say it's a Bible teaching that only pertains to the church. Which Bible teachings pertain to government?

<<Well it'd make as bad a basis for government as it does for the church.>>

Why do you think it’s a bad basis for the church?

Originally posted by @romans1009
When you say “Bible,” do you mean the New Testament? Because that is the foundational text of Christianity.

I mean Christian values like those contained in the ten commandments, several of which I contended were none of government's business and would make a poor basis for governance.

Originally posted by @romans1009
<<Well it'd make as bad a basis for government as it does for the church.>>

Why do you think it’s a bad basis for the church?

I see no credible justification for discriminating against women. It seems ludicrous that a supernatural being would require it to be so. Women make just as good leaders and teachers as men do.

Originally posted by @fmf
I mean Christian values like those contained in the ten commandments, several of which I contended were none of government's business and would make a poor basis for governance.

We already went over this. Please re-read what I previously wrote.

Originally posted by @fmf
I see no credible justification for discriminating against women. It seems ludicrous that a supernatural being would require it to be so. Women make just as good leaders and teachers as men do.

Do you think women are the same as men in their nature (i.e. not biologically?)