1. Donationbuckky
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    21 Jan '10 17:39
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
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    21 Jan '10 17:54
    That's really at the core of all religious belief, isn't it? The extreme human discomfort with self-awareness, life and death, and not knowing anything about it?
  3. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    21 Jan '10 23:27
    Originally posted by buckky
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
    I have had a few satori experiences but not satori. In this sense I think I know there is a point to pusruing spiritual matters, life,death,afterlife,etc.
    But in the absolute sense of knowing 24/7,no , that will not happen until satori.
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    22 Jan '10 01:14
    Originally posted by buckky
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
    I've come to the same conclusion.

    Others have a different take on how knowing is possible. Good luck to them.
  5. Standard memberua41
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    22 Jan '10 18:131 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    I have had a few satori experiences but not satori. In this sense I think I know there is a point to pusruing spiritual matters, life,death,afterlife,etc.
    But in the absolute sense of knowing 24/7,no , that will not happen until satori.
    You stink of zen
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    22 Jan '10 22:34
    Originally posted by buckky
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
    I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get to taste, hear and see exactly why it is called the Good News.
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    22 Jan '10 22:47
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get to taste, hear and see exactly why it is called the Good News.
    I disagree 🙂
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    22 Jan '10 22:51
    Originally posted by Lord Shark
    I disagree 🙂
    So be it.
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    22 Jan '10 23:24
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    So be it.
    Well that's faith for you. You have this experience and conclude as you do. As you say, so be it.
  10. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    22 Jan '10 23:34
    Originally posted by ua41
    You stink of zen
    down to my toes!
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    22 Jan '10 23:46
    Originally posted by buckky
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
    I do.
  12. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    23 Jan '10 00:01
    Originally posted by josephw
    I do.
    Well? dont leave us hanging. Give us one of your pearls of wisdom please.
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    23 Jan '10 03:39
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    down to my toes!
    🙂

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    23 Jan '10 04:02
    Originally posted by buckky
    I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
    Step one...

    Don't stop there.
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    23 Jan '10 04:36
    Originally posted by Badwater
    That's really at the core of all religious belief, isn't it? The extreme human discomfort with self-awareness, life and death, and not knowing anything about it?
    buckky mentioned 'spiritual matters' not 'religious belief', those are two different things in my book... also, I do not agree with your statement about, quote, "the extreme human discomfort of.."
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