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Originally posted by buckkyLove is the glue which binds the immaterial with the material. Love is without form, is not measurable, and cannot be proven to exist in and of itself....if we attempt to understand it via science. However, we know it to be the driving force in our lives which gives our lives meaning. It is both undeniable real and, at the same time, undeniable immaterial. God is love.
I have come to the conclusion that I know nothing about spiritual matters, and I fear nobody else knows anything either. It's all speculation. I hope there is an after life, and I hope there is something pleasant to look forward to down the road, but I sure can't take it to the bank, because I know nothing about such matters. Who does ?
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I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get to taste, hear and see exactly why it is called the Good News.
I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get to taste, hear and see exactly why it is called the Good News.
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I know what you are talking about. I have experienced this also.
My face muscles hurt from grinning so much in the week that I touched such a deep joy of Christ's presence. My cheeks hurt because I felt so good within.
That was January of 1974. I had been a Christian for a couple of years already. But that winter I really got some rocks removed from my heart and I touched a gusher of joy in a corporate way.
Christ is really the Good News. You are exactly right.
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Originally posted by epiphinehasOr, someone has an impossible time with an image of God the Father because they were abused by their father. Instead of a loving God that is without gender, one gets to be subjected to the constant, shrill patriarchal nature of Christianity.
I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get to taste, hear and see exactly why it is called the Good News.
Or, someone is turned off by the gross double standards exhibited by a majority of Christians and Christian churches and does not see love in hypocrisy and double standard, does not see love in the hate, the shunning, the violence, against those who are not them - those that are not the right color, the right income, the right gender, the right nationality, the right religion.
No thanks, I'll pass.
Originally posted by BadwaterOr, someone has an impossible time with an image of God the Father because they were abused by their father.
Or, someone has an impossible time with an image of God the Father because they were abused by their father. Instead of a loving God that is without gender, one gets to be subjected to the constant, shrill patriarchal nature of Christianity.
Or, someone is turned off by the gross double standards exhibited by a majority of Christians and Christian church ...[text shortened]... t income, the right gender, the right nationality, the right religion.
No thanks, I'll pass.
I'm familiar with that. My dad abandoned us when I was in first grade. For years I struggled with conceptualizing God as distant and uncaring.
God heals.
Or, someone is turned off by the gross double standards exhibited by a majority of Christians and Christian churches and does not see love in hypocrisy and double standard, does not see love in the hate, the shunning, the violence, against those who are not them - those that are not the right color, the right income, the right gender, the right nationality, the right religion.
No doubt your observations are spot on. Often Christians are poor representatives of Christ. But be careful that you are not using the sins of others as an excuse to escape the love of God and all an authentic relationship with Him entails.
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Originally posted by jaywillInteresting, because I used to be a Christian.
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I know the love of God. I'm very familiar with God's love because it fills me daily. There's no greater joy than knowing the tender love of the Father, who embraces you whole, character defects, sins and all. It is to this intimate relationship which Jesus Christ calls all people. And all those who obey the Gospel get ...[text shortened]... her of joy in a corporate way.
Christ is really the Good News. You are exactly right.[/b]
But I experienced such joy when I abandoned it 🙂