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    08 May '12 06:371 edit
    “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
    -- Marcus Aurelius

    (too many links to bother citing)
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    08 May '12 07:34
    Originally posted by JS357
    “If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them."
    What if they are unjust, and demand you worship them in return for some large reward? Surely you might want to worship them then?
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    08 May '12 07:57
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    What if they are unjust, and demand you worship them in return for some large reward? Surely you might want to worship them then?
    Or to avoid an eternity with a poker stuck up your bottom......
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    08 May '12 13:24
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Or to avoid an eternity with a poker stuck up your bottom......
    I once heard of a Jazz band who called themselves Edward the II and the red hot
    pokers! 😵
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    08 May '12 13:47
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I once heard of a Jazz band who called themselves Edward the II and the red hot
    pokers! 😵
    Clearly they wanted to get back to fundamentals....

    I thank you.
  6. Standard memberRBHILL
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    08 May '12 14:441 edit
    Originally posted by JS357
    “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
    -- Marcus Aurelius

    (too many links to bother citing)
    lame!!! There are 7 Billion opinions on what the def. of what a good life is.

    Ask a Muslim what his is.
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    08 May '12 15:041 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    lame!!! There are 7 Billion opinions on what the def. of what a good life is.

    Ask a Muslim what his is.
    Doesn't Aurelius's statement allow for belief in divine judgement (and therefore standards) of what constitutes a good life?
  8. Standard memberRJHinds
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    08 May '12 15:07
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    lame!!! There are 7 Billion opinions on what the def. of what a good life is.

    Ask a Muslim what his is.
    Just like beauty, being good for us humans is in the eye of the beholder.
  9. Standard memberRBHILL
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    08 May '12 15:09
    Originally posted by JS357
    Doesn't Aurelius's statement allow for belief in divine judgement (and therefore standards) of what constitutes a good life?
    He answered: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

    This is for the believers good life.
  10. Standard memberRBHILL
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    08 May '12 15:10
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Just like beauty, being good for us humans is in the eye of the beholder.
    🙂
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