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    24 Mar '16 14:51
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    We have followed strictly the biblical example. The celebration was instituted on an annual observance and we have followed that example.
    Who "instituted" it?
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    24 Mar '16 15:38
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    As I stated there is not a shred of evidence in the scripture to suggest that the record of a simple communal meal constitutes a celebration of the memorial of Christ death, you simply made it up.
    Communal meal is not in the Bible. You simply made that up.
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Communal meal is not in the Bible. You simply made that up.
    breaking bread is simply a common expression for taking a meal. I did not make it up. You on the other hand have ASSUMED that it always and specifically refers to the Lords evening meal, without a shred of Biblical evidence.

    The expression “the breaking of bread” occurs five times in Acts (2:42, 46; 20:7,11; 27:35). This is quite frequently interpreted to refer to the rite of the Lord’s Supper: indeed, some expositors take this meaning for granted, as self-evident. If it does, it gives us no real information at all about it: except that it would testify to an early date for its observance.

    However, how confident can we be, on the evidence, that any of the references to the “breaking of bread” do in fact refer to an observance of the Lord’s Supper/the Holy Communion/the Holy Eucharist? The easy confidence that that is its meaning should be more carefully examined - we shall consider further the relevance, for our understanding, of the passages about the breaking of bread.

    All the New Testament references to the breaking of bread (including Gospel parallels) are (NIV):

    (a) Mark 6:41 (cf. Matthew 14:9 and Luke 9:16) Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves.

    (b) Mark 8:6 (cf. Matthew 15:36) He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to set before the people, and they did so.

    (c) Luke 24:30,35 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. ... Then the two told what had happened on the way, and how Jesus was recognized by them when he broke the bread.

    (d) Acts 2:42,46 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. ... Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts.

    (e) Acts 20:7,11 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight. ... Then he went upstairs again and broke bread and ate. After talking until daylight, he left.

    (f) Acts 27:35 After he said this, he took some bread and gave thanks to God in front of them all. Then he broke it and began to eat.

    Is the expression “the breaking of bread” being used in the New T­e­s­­­t­ament with reference to the Lord’s Supper? Let us examine this widely-held assumption.

    The “breaking of bread” is in fact a standard Jewish expression from pre-Christian times which refers specifically to the action of “breaking bread” at the commencement of a meal, and then, by extension, to the meal itself. The act of breaking the bread was performed by the head of a household or by the host presiding at the meal.

    The form of blessing used by the Jews for the bread was: “Blessed art Thou, O Lord our God, King of the universe, who bringest forth bread from the earth.”

    The breaking of bread was thus associated with the prayer of thanksgiving, and had a religious significance of joint ­fellow­ship in sharing and enjoying the blessings of God. A.B. MacDonald, in his Christian Worship in the Primitive Church (125), points out:

    “The taking of food was accompanied, or rather, preceded, by a certain formal and conspicuous action, namely, the pronouncing of a blessing over the bread that was to be eaten, followed by the breaking of the loaf in two, preparatory to its distribution around the table. This was an old Jewish custom, corresponding to our grace before meals, but conveying far deeper suggestions of religious fellowship, and carried through with greater solemnity and ceremony, and reserved for certain meals of a pronouncedly religious character.”

    http://bwardpowers.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/meaning-of-breaking-of-bread.html
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    when will you learn that I cannot be touched?
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    24 Mar '16 16:02
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    As I stated there is not a shred of evidence in the scripture to suggest that the record of a simple communal meal constitutes a celebration of the memorial of Christ death, you simply made it up.
    According to your very own passage which you quoted in the opening post, Christ 'broke the bread'.. This is called by the Apostles the breaking of bread and is a completely separate thing from a meal.

    There is nothing called 'communal meal' in the Bible.
    There is mention of 'supper' which people often eat together.
    There is 'breaking of bread', done in remembrance of the death of Christ.

    Im not interested in your links to the opinion of others.
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    24 Mar '16 16:054 edits
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    According to your very own passage which you quoted in the opening post, Christ 'broke the bread'.. This is called by the Apostles the breaking of bread and is a completely separate thing from a meal.

    There is nothing called 'communal meal' in the Bible.
    There is mention of 'supper' which people often eat together.
    There is 'breaking of bread', done in ...[text shortened]... remembrance of the death of Christ.

    Im not interested in your links to the opinion of others.
    I have just provided a plethora of evidence, you make reference to that, the five times where the term breaking bread is used in the scriptures the majority of which refer to a communal meal. No its not completely separate because the term which you have interpreted as being evidence of the Lords evening meal occurs five times in scripture and is exactly the same, I suggest you go away and learn where it is used and for what.
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    24 Mar '16 16:092 edits
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    According to your very own passage which you quoted in the opening post, Christ 'broke the bread'.. This is called by the Apostles the breaking of bread and is a completely separate thing from a meal.

    There is nothing called 'communal meal' in the Bible.
    There is mention of 'supper' which people often eat together.
    There is 'breaking of bread', done in ...[text shortened]... remembrance of the death of Christ.

    Im not interested in your links to the opinion of others.
    you are not interested in anything which displaces your ignorance, ok goodbye, cya! the honest and sincere reader can see for themselves where the term occurs and for what reason.
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    24 Mar '16 18:173 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    breaking bread is simply having a communal meal there is NO indication that this was a memorial celebration of Christs death and what is more tradition has it that the apostles celebrated an annual event. We have followed strictly the biblical example. The celebration was instituted on an annual observance and we have followed that example.
    You come with this same pitch every Easter, and every Easter we [true] [ 😉 ] Christians point out that in addition to your one rememberence per year, others remember it another 51 times. That's a 5,000% increase over your weedy once per year. When it comes to "rememberence" you guys are in the lower leagues.
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    You come with this same pitch every Easter, and every Easter we [true] [ 😉 ] Christians point out that in addition to your one rememberence per year, others remember it another 51 times. That's a 5,000% increase over your weedy once per year. When it comes to "rememberence" you guys are in the lower leagues.
    I apologise for sounding so harsh but you seem content to post meaningless twaddle which helps no one understand anything and is unworthy of any sincere Bible students time.
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    25 Mar '16 06:531 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    As I stated there is not a shred of evidence in the scripture to suggest that the record of a simple communal meal constitutes a celebration of the memorial of Christ death, you simply made it up.
    Here is a small tract you may find interesting. Part of it talks about how the Passover doesn't always align with pagan Easter.

    http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract1.html
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