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@KellyJay said
If you tell me why something is not specified in scripture that is reading something into it that is not there. Just stick to what is said you are better off.
I never said "why" something is not specified in scripture.
I dont understand half of what you write.

I stick to what was said. Give me an example of when I did not stick to what was said. Maybe that might help me to understand what you talking about.


@Rajk999 said
I never said "why" something is not specified in scripture.
I dont understand half of what you write.

I stick to what was said. Give me an example of when I did not stick to what was said. Maybe that might help me to understand what you talking about.
I don’t have time to research your posts but I will remind you when it comes up.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
There are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet).

Edit: The above is a checkmate answer. Collect your pieces and leave the room.
Compared to cells in a human life over a lifetime we are talking very large numbers compared to universe’s galaxies don’t know if they are near each other in size. Every single cell throughout a human lifetime had one ultimate goal, house a single human being’s life. So seeing the galaxy and its makeup doesn’t seem far fetched to think all of that is there for life in one place. Size, space, distance, and time are just variables that for us seem incalculable but to God, not a problem.

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@KellyJay
Either way, no one knows for sure at this time. Both are theories with some actual evidence to back them up. However, no solid proof for our flesh to believe completely.


@KingDavid403 said
@KellyJay
Either way, no one knows for sure at this time. Both are theories with some actual evidence to back them up. However, no solid proof for our flesh to believe completely.
If there were faith would not be required.

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@KellyJay said
If there were faith would not be required.
Well, I have no faith in your personal theory. My faith is in Jesus. Furthermore, I have more faith in Ghost's theory of other life, than in yours.

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@KingDavid403 said
Well, I have no faith in your personal theory. My faith is in Jesus. Furthermore, I have more faith in Ghost's theory of other life, than in yours.
I'm supposed to care, why? You've accused me of things I didn't do more than once. The fact you felt the need to tell me you don't believe me is just one more dig I've come to expect from you.


@KingDavid403 said
Well, I have no faith in your personal theory. My faith is in Jesus. Furthermore, I have more faith in Ghost's theory of other life, than in yours.
The strength of your faith is evidenced by your openness to the possibility of other life out there in the universe, and not seeing it as a direct threat to the belief in a creator God. Kelly, on the other hand, lives in perpetual fear of such things.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
The strength of your faith is evidenced by your openness to the possibility of other life out there in the universe, and not seeing it as a direct threat to the belief in a creator God. Kelly, on the other hand, lives in perpetual fear of such things.
There is no direct threat one way or another to my faith no matter the answer, I doubt you could say the same thing. Looking at sheer numbers housing a life, I'm merely pointing out that a lot of material is dedicated to one life. There is also an incredible amount of highly sophisticated work for each life form. So it doesn't strike me as obvious that there must be more life out there simply due to the expanse and what we see. Given that God is not required for your worldview narrative on the beginning, structure, and operations of the cosmos you would as I see it anyway, must be required to accept that point of view, where as I do not.


@KingDavid403 said
Well, I have no faith in your personal theory. My faith is in Jesus. Furthermore, I have more faith in Ghost's theory of other life, than in yours.
This has nothing to do with faith. There are clues in the bible about lots of stuff. There are many other books in the Jewish library that gives information of the heaveanly host and all that God did. People who read only the bible cannot comment on these things and will often, like in KJs case, try to condemn speculation. Nothing is wrong with speculation as long as it does not conflict with what the bible says clearly. So far I can see no conflict.

Is it wrong to speculate what Jesus did from age 12 to 30? I dont think so but there are Christians who would think it is.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
The strength of your faith is evidenced by your openness to the possibility of other life out there in the universe, and not seeing it as a direct threat to the belief in a creator God. Kelly, on the other hand, lives in perpetual fear of such things.
Other lifeforms support the idea of a creator God. Scientists have determine that the universe is expanding, and galaxies are being constantly created. This is all the work of God. Creation is constant and ongoing. It is incredible to me that people believe [and I have heard Christians say this], that God and the billions of angels and other beings out there are waiting around for the return of Christ to Earth to do something.

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@KellyJay said
I'm supposed to care, why? You've accused me of things I didn't do more than once. The fact you felt the need to tell me you don't believe me is just one more dig I've come to expect from you.
I'm supposed to care, why?
I didn't say that you were. However, you sound upset.
I personally did not dismiss your theory as plausible. I just personally found Ghost's more plausible than yours. You can take it as you wish.

You've accused me of things I didn't do more than once.
Yes, I Once accused you of something that you did no do; and, I publicly apologized to you in this forum. Again, I am greatly sorrowful for my false accusation; please forgive me.

The fact you felt the need to tell me you don't believe me is just one more dig I've come to expect from you.
I did not say that I did not believe you, or that your theory was not possible.
You questioned my faith in God; basically saying that if I had faith in God that I would believe your theory over Dukes. I clarified that for you; dig or not.

I've come to expect from you.
God Bless Kelly. 🙂

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@Rajk999 said
This has nothing to do with faith. There are clues in the bible about lots of stuff. There are many other books in the Jewish library that gives information of the heaveanly host and all that God did. People who read only the bible cannot comment on these things and will often, like in KJs case, try to condemn speculation. Nothing is wrong with speculation as long as it do ...[text shortened]... e what Jesus did from age 12 to 30? I dont think so but there are Christians who would think it is.
Is it wrong to speculate what Jesus did from age 12 to 30?
No, not at all. I'm sure that you know that some of the Apocrypha Books cover some of this period of the Life of Jesus. Personally, I found them a little strange; but plausible.

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@KingDavid403 said
I'm supposed to care, why?
I didn't say that you were. However, you sound upset.
I personally did not dismiss your theory as plausible. I just personally found Ghost's more plausible than yours. You can take it as you wish.

You've accused me of things I didn't do more than once.
Yes, I Once accused you of something that you did no do; and, I public ...[text shortened]... . I clarified that for you; dig or not.

I've come to expect from you.
God Bless Kelly. 🙂
I did not question your faith, I said that if there were proof no faith would be required.

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@KellyJay said
I did not question your faith, I said that if there were proof no faith would be required.
If there were faith would not be required.
Above is what you said Kelly.

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