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Originally posted by sonhouseAsk sonship.
If mankind gets even to other planets in our solar system, say Mars and Europa where you would basically be living in caves and it turns out that the bible god is true, what happens to those people not even on Earth during that time? Would they too get plagues and such?
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Originally posted by sonhouseWhy do you have to think so negatively? Why not think in terms of being loved by God - even on Mars, being blessed - even on Mars, being a recipient of God's grace - even on Mars?
If mankind gets even to other planets in our solar system, say Mars and Europa where you would basically be living in caves and it turns out that the bible god is true, what happens to those people not even on Earth during that time? Would they too get plagues and such?
If you can only think of God in relation to hail stones, plagues, punishment, wrath ... etc. that is too skewed, too lopsided.
Why, I think of the sweetness of having a nice Bible Study on Mars with the dear presence of the Holy Spirit.
Why so negative?
19 Nov 14
Originally posted by sonhouseSorry, man can not escape the judgment of God by traveling to other planets.
If mankind gets even to other planets in our solar system, say Mars and Europa where you would basically be living in caves and it turns out that the bible god is true, what happens to those people not even on Earth during that time? Would they too get plagues and such?
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Originally posted by RJHindsNeither can she or he escape His love.
Sorry, man can not escape the judgment of God by traveling to other planets.
Neither height nor depth nor any other creature can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord, says the apostle.
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Actually, a point to remember is that going to some very, very distant place, you still bring your nature with you.
Do you understand sonhouse? If men go to another planet they take what they are WITH them to that new place.
Now at the end of time we are told heaven and earth are seen as fled away and people suspended before God.
"And I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose face earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them." (Rev. 20:11)
This is the scene of the last judgment. Men and women, angels and demons suspended before Jesus Christ on a great white throne. Heaven and earth have no place. Only the brightness of His face, the holiness of His authority. No place was found for the physical universe somehow. Only God and the ones to be judged are left.
No earth, no moon, no Mars, no stars - no place for the world there. Only the dead of all the ages and Jesus Christ upon the seat of ultimate government, by then the great white throne.
But today, today we can come forward to that throne as a throne of grace through the wonderful redemptive blood of Christ.
"Let us therefore come forward with boldness to the throne of grace that we may receive mercy and find grace for timely help." (Hebrews 4:16)
Today we can come forward "with boldness" because of the redeeming blood of the Son of God, to the throne of God as a throne of grace.
Marvelous!
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Originally posted by DeepThought
Is this your explanation for the finite speed of light? If it were not finite the wicked could travel vast distances to escape judgement.
Is this your explanation for the finite speed of light? If it were not finite the wicked could travel vast distances to escape judgement.
The shortest distance between two points worth going to is Jesus.
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Originally posted by DeepThoughtWhat makes you say this? Where is the "proof" you demand of others for their "off-the-cuff" remarks?
Is this your explanation for the finite speed of light? If it were not finite the wicked could travel vast distances to escape judgement.
God made the entire universe. He knows the rules that govern it. Would He make a universe where you could escape God's judgement? I'm guessing NO.
19 Nov 14
Originally posted by sonhouseAnd how long do you think Man will need to pull this off? The way things are going, I'm guessing Man will need way more time to do this than we have left.
If mankind gets even to other planets in our solar system, say Mars and Europa where you would basically be living in caves and it turns out that the bible god is true, what happens to those people not even on Earth during that time? Would they too get plagues and such?
Mars and even Europa are "right next door" in cosmic terms, anyways.
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Originally posted by SuzianneIt's called being facetious. Do you really expect every comment made in these forums to be entirely serious?
What makes you say this? Where is the "proof" you demand of others for their "off-the-cuff" remarks?
God made the entire universe. He knows the rules that govern it. Would He make a universe where you could escape God's judgement? I'm guessing NO.
If you want a serious point then if there is a God and that God is the God of the entire universe then there can't be an escape. All sonhouse's scenario does is undermine the imagery connected with the apocalypse. Although it does raise an interesting question, if the second coming is on Earth would people on Mars miss out somehow?
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Originally posted by DeepThoughtWait a minute. Are you a believer? Do you believe in something FMF calls a "God figure"?
It's called being facetious. Do you really expect every comment made in these forums to be entirely serious?
If you want a serious point then if there is a God and that God is the God of the entire universe then there can't be an escape. All sonhouse's scenario does is undermine the imagery connected with the apocalypse. Although it does raise an interesting question, if the second coming is on Earth would people on Mars miss out somehow?
I thought we had a conversation about your belief before. What do you think about your question? How would you answer it?
sonhouse raises his question through ignorance. There is way more to the Tribulation and Jesus' return than non-believers can, well, believe. But it does kind of boil down to what you personally feel will happen in the End of Days. I could give my view, but that would be nonsense to you if you believed something totally different.
And no, humans on Mars would not be out of God's reach.
19 Nov 14
Originally posted by SuzianneAccording to RJ, your god is not omniscient. If it was, it would have already known, say, about Hitler or Pol Pot and the millions of deaths they engendered. So it seems if your god is not omniscient then if humans go far enough away, they could escape this alleged judgement. Is your god omniscient?
Wait a minute. Are you a believer? Do you believe in something FMF calls a "God figure"?
I thought we had a conversation about your belief before. What do you think about your question? How would you answer it?
sonhouse raises his question through ignorance. There is way more to the Tribulation and Jesus' return than non-believers can, well, beli ...[text shortened]... believed something totally different.
And no, humans on Mars would not be out of God's reach.