Michael the archangel

http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/michael.htm




Manny

interesting and seems legit

If I missed this forgive me but Robbie made a comment. This angel "Michael" defeats Satan the Devil, correct?
What other angel in the Bible would have this power and ability if this were not Jesus?

Originally posted by menace71
You know we are always slamming on the JWs but there is some room for what RC is saying. Michael means captain of God or Prince of God and Angel means messenger of God (and in the ultimate sense) Jesus was indeed the ultimate messenger of God. In the context of Michael and his angels waging war with the serpent and his angels it sounds a lot like Jesus.

Manny

Yes....one just has to sit and think about it and put it together. Good job.

Originally posted by Suzianne
This is all spun from the JW dogma that Christ is a "created being", and therefore[sic] could not have been "with God" in the beginning. It's amazing what gymnastics have to be done to appear correct when you get the first thing wrong.

Drop that one dogmatic miscue, and suddenly it all becomes clearer.

Also, the archangel who usually has the j ...[text shortened]... .

And as for Adventist dogma, they are second only to JWs for dogma made up from whole cloth.

Then why isn't Gabriels name used here instead of Michaels?

Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

Put simply, the answer is yes. The custom of being called by more than one name is common in many cultures. The same situation occurs with names in the Bible. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also named Israel. (Genesis 35:10) The apostle Peter is named in five different ways—Symeon, Simon, Peter, Cephas, and Simon Peter. (Matthew 10:2; 16:16; John 1:42; Acts 15:7, 14) How can we be sure that Michael is another name for Jesus? Consider the following Scriptural evidence.

The Bible contains five references to the mighty spirit creature Michael. Three occurrences are in the book of Daniel. At Daniel 10:13, 21, we read that a dispatched angel is rescued by Michael, who is called “one of the foremost princes” and “the prince of you people.” Next, at Daniel 12:1, we learn that in the time of the end, “Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people.”
A further mention of Michael occurs at Revelation 12:7, which describes “Michael and his angels” as fighting a vital war that results in the ousting of Satan the Devil and his wicked angels from heaven.
Notice that in each of the above-mentioned cases, Michael is portrayed as a warrior angel battling for and protecting God’s people, even confronting Jehovah’s greatest enemy, Satan.
Jude verse 9 calls Michael “the archangel.” The prefix “arch” means “principal” or “chief,” and the word “archangel” is never used in the plural form in the Bible. The only other verse in which an archangel is mentioned is at 1 Thessalonians 4:16, where Paul describes the resurrected Jesus, saying: “The Lord [Jesus] himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet.” So Jesus Christ himself is here identified as the archangel, or chief angel.
In view of the foregoing, what can we conclude? Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel. Both names—Michael (meaning “Who Is Like God?&rdquo😉 and Jesus (meaning “Jehovah Is Salvation&rdquo😉—focus attention on his role as the leading advocate of God’s sovereignty. Philippians 2:9 states: “God exalted him [the glorified Jesus] to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name.”

It is important to note that the human birth of Jesus was not the beginning of his life. Before Jesus was born, Mary was visited by an angel who told her that she would conceive a child by means of holy spirit and that she should name the child Jesus. (Luke 1:31) During his ministry, Jesus often spoke of his prehuman existence.—John 3:13; 8:23, 58.

So Michael the archangel is Jesus in his prehuman existence. After his resurrection and return to heaven, Jesus resumed his service as Michael, the chief angel, “to the glory of God the Father.”—Philippians 2:11.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003035

Originally posted by galveston75
Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

Put simply, the answer is yes. The custom of being called by more than one name is common in many cultures. The same situation occurs with names in the Bible. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also named Israel. (Genesis 35:10) The apostle Peter is named in five different ways—Symeon, Simon, Peter, Cephas, and Simon ...[text shortened]... med his service as Michael, the chief angel, “to the glory of God the Father.”—Philippians 2:11.

Put more simply, the answer is NO.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Put more simply, the answer is NO.

Oh just because you say so? Lol. How about answering my above questions...

Gabriel, not Michael, was the angel that visited the virgin Mary.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Gabriel, not Michael, was the angel that visited the virgin Mary.

So who said it wasn't?

Now answer my questions.

Originally posted by galveston75
So who said it wasn't?

Now answer my questions.

I am just pointing out that you should remove your reference to an angel appearing to the virgin Mary as some kind of evidence that Michael and Jesus are the same person.

Also Philippians 2:11 doesn't even mention Michael as a chief angel or archangel.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am just pointing out that you should remove your reference to an angel appearing to the virgin Mary as some kind of evidence that Michael and Jesus are the same person.

Also Philippians 2:11 doesn't even mention Michael as a chief angel or archangel.

Answer my questions...

Originally posted by galveston75
Answer my questions...

I thought I answered them. What are your questions again that I did not answer?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I thought I answered them. What are your questions again that I did not answer?

"If I missed this forgive me but Robbie made a comment. This angel "Michael" defeats Satan the Devil, correct?
What other angel in the Bible would have this power and ability if this were not Jesus?"

There are a couple on the other threads your avoiding too.

The key questions in this are the ones Jesus asked Peter "who do men say that I am?" And "who do you say that I am?"

There are also some fundamental irrefutable truths to consider:
Jesus accepted worship/was worshiped
Angels are not to be worshipped
In Jesus dwelt the FULLNESS of the godhead in bodily form
Also the scripture I posted earlier, which I noticed was ignored.

I know what my response is when I'm asked "who do you say that I am?" And it won't be "you are an angel".