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    27 Apr '08 09:47
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7339508.stm

    A window into the past, showing a snake with little hind legs, apparently...

    Or it could be part of a fake?
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    27 Apr '08 10:03
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7339508.stm

    A window into the past, showing a snake with little hind legs, apparently...

    Or it could be part of a fake?
    Looks like God planted it to test our faith!
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    27 Apr '08 12:33
    Another nail in the coffin of Creationism.
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    27 Apr '08 13:56
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7339508.stm

    A window into the past, showing a snake with little hind legs, apparently...

    Or it could be part of a fake?
    How can we know? It could easily be a fake. I can't help thinking that it all looks like straining at a gnat.
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    27 Apr '08 16:02
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7339508.stm

    A window into the past, showing a snake with little hind legs, apparently...

    Or it could be part of a fake?
    Now here's where the Creationist position shows it's weakness. The standard comment is -

    "Well what about the missing link between this legged snake and modern snakes? Between this legged snake and lizards?"

    They never stop asking for MORE missing links. You find a thousand "missing links" and they demand two thousand.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    ghe ghe.
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    28 Apr '08 02:06
    Originally posted by josephw
    How can we know? It could easily be a fake. I can't help thinking that it all looks like straining at a gnat.
    It could be, and I expect it to be subject to scientific scrutiny. And, if it is a fake, I expect it to
    be revealed as such. You see, when a scientist promotes bad claims, the scientific community
    analyzes its veracity, and if it is found to be suspect they report it.

    Now, let's assume it's not a fake. What will this tell you about the theory of evolution?

    Nemesio
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    28 Apr '08 21:19
    Originally posted by josephw
    How can we know? It could easily be a fake. I can't help thinking that it all looks like straining at a gnat.
    It's just (assuming it's ok) a snake with legs. Thing is, we already have snakes with legs, well sort of. slow worms.

    It's just that it doesn't look like we have had this sort of snake before...
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    28 Apr '08 21:281 edit
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Another nail in the coffin of Creationism.
    You mean supposed little hind legs on the the rear of a snake proves that "In the beginning God [did NOT] create the heavens and the earth?"
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    Originally posted by jaywill
    You mean supposed little hind legs on the the rear of a snake proves that [b]"In the beginning God [did NOT] create the heavens and the earth?" [/b]
    No, but it does suggest a common ancestor with whales, birds, etc, which does not seem compatible with Genesis 1:21.
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    Originally posted by jaywill
    You mean supposed little hind legs on the the rear of a snake proves that [b]"In the beginning God [did NOT] create the heavens and the earth?" [/b]
    No, it provides another empirical datum contradicting a literal reading of the disparate Genesis
    myths.

    Nemesio
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    29 Apr '08 05:33
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    It could be, and I expect it to be subject to scientific scrutiny. And, if it is a fake, I expect it to
    be revealed as such. You see, when a scientist promotes bad claims, the scientific community
    analyzes its veracity, and if it is found to be suspect they report it.

    Now, let's assume it's not a fake. What will this tell you about the theory of evolution?

    Nemesio
    What that would prove to creationists is there is a conspiracy against creationism.
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    29 Apr '08 06:27
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7339508.stm

    A window into the past, showing a snake with little hind legs, apparently...
    There are living examples of 'snakes' with legs. Lizards for example have all four. There are also lizards that move like snakes and lizards with very stunted legs. I believe pythons have little claws instead of hind legs.

    Or it could be part of a fake?
    Without independent study, one cant really rule that out. However, there really is no incentive to fake something like that. There is really no benefit to be gained by faking something like that and if the faker is discovered he will get discredited.
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    01 May '08 02:49
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    There are living examples of 'snakes' with legs. Lizards for example have all four. There are also lizards that move like snakes and lizards with very stunted legs. I believe pythons have little claws instead of hind legs.

    [b]Or it could be part of a fake?

    Without independent study, one cant really rule that out. However, there really is no incent ...[text shortened]... gained by faking something like that and if the faker is discovered he will get discredited.[/b]
    I wonder how they decided it was a snake and not a lizard (i.e. suborder serpentes).
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    01 May '08 13:17
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    No, it provides another empirical datum contradicting a literal reading of the disparate Genesis
    myths.

    Nemesio
    It doesn't. It proves the Bible is true. It was only after the Fall that snakes were made to slither on their bellies. Before that they had feet. It's amazing how evilutionists will try anything to avoid facing their own wickedness.

    I'm sure that in time we will discover fossils of talking snakes to, and they'll have another crazy story to sweep it under the rug.
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