@ghost-of-a-duke saidCompletely agree.
Doesn't that also apply to all prisons, irrespective of mental health status?
I get that this thread was based on a hypothetical question, but putting that question in quotation marks (implying somebody had actually said it) was misguided, especially as mental health is already greatly stigmatized and misunderstood.
The important issue being that mentally ill people are less likely to be incarcerated for violent crimes than the non mentally ill. e.g. prevalence of schizophrenia is roughly 1%, but less than 1% of homicides are committed by people with schizophrenia.
The myth that it is the opposite perpetuates the stigma, that prevents many people with mental illness gaining employment. Since social exclusion is a predictor of worse outcome in mental illness this is a very harmful myth. The fact that this website tolerates a harmful myth as a thread title is one of the reasons I will definitely not renew the four years for the price of three subscription I purchased in Feb 2020, when it expires.
@relentless-red saidWhat "harmful myth" is being propagated by this thread? Have you not bothered to read it?
The fact that this website tolerates a harmful myth as a thread title is one of the reasons I will definitely not renew the four years for the price of three subscription I purchased in Feb 2020, when it expires.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf he's going to leave the website because of the title of a thread that he can't be bothered to read, then good riddance.
He said 'thread title.'
@fmf saidAs already stated, mental health is already greatly stigmatized and misunderstood.
If he's going to leave the website because of the title of a thread that he can't be bothered to read, then good riddance.
The contents of the thread are irrelevant. It's the title of the thread that unnecessarily propagates and feeds into this stigma and ignorance around mental health.
@josephw saidAn attempt to create "a trap to ensnare Christian posters into questions about morality"? What are afraid of? You feel "trapped" by discussion of moral issues?
It wasn't "misguided". It was an intentional attempt to create a trap to ensnare Christian posters into questions about morality.
@relentless-red saidI started the thread after I heard a right-wing commentator make the ridiculous claim in the wake of one of the recent mass shootings. I put the words in quotation marks and asked a hypothetical question aimed at the sort of people who make such claims to tee up a discussionabout crime, morality and culpability. No one on the thread has argued that the thread title quote is true or done anything to perpetuate any myth. You should have read thread.
The myth that it is the opposite perpetuates the stigma, that prevents many people with mental illness gaining employment. Since social exclusion is a predictor of worse outcome in mental illness this is a very harmful myth.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidDon't be so silly.
The contents of the thread are irrelevant. It's the title of the thread that unnecessarily propagates and feeds into this stigma and ignorance around mental health.
@fmf saidYou're right it is a ridiculous claim. Do you not think you are propagating it by putting it in a thread title?
I started the thread after I heard a right-wing commentator make the ridiculous claim in the wake of one of the recent mass shootings. I put the words in quotation marks and asked a hypothetical question aimed at the sort of people who make such claims to tee up a discussionabout crime, morality and culpability. No one on the thread has argued that the thread title quote is true or done anything to perpetuate any myth. You should have read thread.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNot in the slightest.
You're right it is a ridiculous claim. Do you not think you are propagating it by putting it in a thread title?
Hey everybody, let's cater to the kind of people who get their "knowledge" about mental health from thread titles!
I think you and Relentless Red are being sanctimonious and silly.
@fmf saidI think you are showing your flippancy toward mental health. I literally cringed when I read the title of this thread.
Not in the slightest.
Hey everybody, let's cater to the kind of people who get their "knowledge" about mental health from thread titles!
I think you and Relentless Red are being sanctimonious and silly.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWell it's a controversial and topical notion that warrants a discussion on the moral implications of believing such a thing.
When mental health is reported in the media it is invariably under stigmatizing and inflammatory headlines. Much like your own.